NL10 Rush: AA on paired board vs raise - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Two Plus Two Forums Poker Strategy Online No-Limit Hold’em Cash

NL10 Rush: AA on paired board vs raise

Post Reply Subscribe

...

07-31-2010 , 06:56 AM

4645

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 8

Hi

Full Tilt Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $3.01
SB: $2.95
BB: $10.00 14/0 over 7 hands

UTG: $3.75
UTG+1: $17.26
UTG+2: $12.75
MP1: $17.86
Hero (MP2): $13.70
CO: $4.48

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with A

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 3 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $1.20 Hero ???

Well, I have no real stats and reads on this villain, basically he could have ATC...

What's your usual line in this spot? Reraise (because he could easily be bluffing or betting smaller pocket pairs) and fold to a shove? Flatcalling and jamming the turn if he shows weakness? Shove flop? Just flatcalling turn and river?
Bigger flop bet, right?

Quote

07-31-2010 , 08:12 AM

LegalizeIt

centurion

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 128

Bets are:

- for value - to get worse hands call
- as a bluff - to get better hands fold
- for protection - to get drawing hands pay off for their draws

No point in raising. You're folding out better hands (lose value) and better hands (22/Jx) are calling (see the point?) and there are no draws to charge. Against a stranger with no reads I call the raise and play the turn IP.

Your smallish bet looks like weakness and might have got him to try to take the pot away by bluffing/protecting his mid-small PP against your overcards. On the turn and river I'd probably rely on his betsizing to decide if I want to continue.

Last edited by LegalizeIt; 07-31-2010 at 08:23 AM.

Quote

07-31-2010 , 08:58 AM

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

3-betting/shoving is worse than folding. Your opponent either Jx or nothing. Maybe if he's advanced enough, he could be raising a 77-99 thinking that you might sense he's bluffing and come along with a smaller pocket pair or ace high to bluff later on. He doesn't have QQ or KK since he didn't re-raise you.

Just call and play poker.

Quote

07-31-2010 , 09:01 AM

4645

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegalizeIt

Yes, that's more or less what I thought.
I call, turn is a 2. He checks and I bet about 70% pot, he thinks for about 5-10 secs and minraises...
What's my play now?

Quote

07-31-2010 , 09:07 AM

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Two check-raises? That stinks of a bluff in 6max LHE. You call down with king high and your opponent miserably mucks his rags.

Not sure if it means the same in 2 NL. To me, it's clear now (if it wasn't before) that villain has Jx or is bluffing you.

I'm just a greenhorn, but I check behind on the turn. If he was bluffing the flop, he's folding to your bet. If he has Jx or 22, he's raising our bet. He definitely isn't raising a pocket pair to a guy who has raised pre and fired on the flop and turn.

Quote

07-31-2010 , 09:46 AM

jleehaus70

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 208

**grunch

I would call and see what happens on the turn in position. Usually the range here is pp 66--TT or Jx, probably not too many bluffs in his range here. I would call a turn bet on a brick and fold to a river bet. It is a passive line but one that seems to be effective in these situations.

Quote

07-31-2010 , 09:50 AM

jleehaus70

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 208

Quote:

I call, turn is a 2. He checks and I bet about 70% pot, he thinks for about 5-10 secs and minraises...
What's my play now?

Fold now after min raise, rarely a bluff, Ax check calls.

Quote

07-31-2010 , 10:10 AM

jb1aze

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 268

Minraise on turn screams "come over the top of me, i dare ya" almost always, especially on a double paired board. While it may look weak, to some people it may say "i think i have you beat but im not sure" i dont see how the 2 could really improve much of any hand, so i chalk it up to V turning the boat with a JT-JA.

Quote

07-31-2010 , 01:35 PM

Porky Pig

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 392

If you call, why not check behind on the turn?

By betting the turn, you fold out a lot of his bluffs which will often repop you on the river. When you bet the turn, you don't like a call, or a raise, so you're turning your hand into a bluff (with some equity vs his calling/raising range) which is fairly pointless.

Quote

Post Reply Subscribe

...