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NL10 oesd flop, pair on turn NL10 oesd flop, pair on turn

07-02-2009 , 04:44 AM
All are a bit unknows, just started table

I had played fairly tight the last rounds. opened a bit lose for me at MP this time. HEM doesnt work for me to show session stats.
I have 22/17 over 2 tables this session, a bit tighter at this table

opponent is 67,17,0.4 over 18 hands (probably doesn't know stats)


POKERSTARS DAMMIT $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $10.85
UTG: $10.00
Hero (MP): $10.00
CO: $6.35
BTN: $6.05
SB: $10.05

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with K J
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) Q Q T (3 players)
BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.85) J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BTN calls $0.60, BB folds

River: ($3.05) 3 (2 players)
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07-02-2009 , 04:45 AM
I figured someone should have a Q or T, so my turn bet was small. was going for c/c river

a good line?
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07-02-2009 , 04:51 AM
Is that turn bet a blocker bet cos if not, it's very bad sizing. Maybe your keeping some Tx in but you're also giving great odds to draw to a flush. I'd be inclined to check and hope for a free card or bet bigger to charge draws rather that betting that small. Check river and see what BTN does, i think FD is a part of his range. If he bets, i think we have to fold unless it's a gaybet
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07-02-2009 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fsn
Is that turn bet a blocker bet cos if not, it's very bad sizing. Maybe your keeping some Tx in but you're also giving great odds to draw to a flush. I'd be inclined to check and hope for a free card or bet bigger to charge draws rather that betting that small. Check river and see what BTN does, i think FD is a part of his range. If he bets, i think we have to fold unless it's a gaybet
my bet was a blocker, trying to get a cheap sd


good to know I should bet bigger to charge draws. .but with that board, is it really good?

check back gives any high card an easy draw.
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07-02-2009 , 05:04 AM
I might just check this turn rather than bet. It's true that it gives a free card to the other but you're probably getting one too. Not a good board to bet big but also not a good board to blockbet. Remember that you're drawing to a hand that won't be even near to the nuts. And if you get your straight, there's a big possibility that you won't get action since there will be 4 to a straight on board and also if you hit your 9, someone might have a bigger straight with AK. Not likely thou concidering the turn action afterwards but you can't know that by the time you bet.
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07-02-2009 , 05:13 AM
Check turn. Don't spaz with betting alot just because there is a flush draw out. It's highly unlikely that villain picked it up on the turn.

C/c turn, c/c river.
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07-02-2009 , 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LR89
Check turn. Don't spaz with betting alot just because there is a flush draw out. It's highly unlikely that villain picked it up on the turn.

C/c turn, c/c river.
What hands are you expecting to bet that river that we beat?
Tx would certainly check behind.
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07-02-2009 , 05:44 AM
I think its more likely that BB has something like 99 or Tx or something like that nature.
I would raise to $1 on flop, bet 1/2-2/3 pot on turn and shutdown on river.
But i dont mind the flop call either against multiple opponents. In that case i check that turn and just try to see a cheap showdown.
As played i would c/f river.
OOP you can't really block bet on turn, but you already figured it out in this hand.
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07-02-2009 , 07:07 AM
tnx for all your advise.

as it played out he called turn and

River: ($3.05) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.10

easy call with that weak bet?
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07-02-2009 , 07:35 AM
It was cheap for everyone to stick around on the flop, even on this dangerous board, when you improve to 2nd pair you still could be way behind unless your draw hits, so keeping the pot small is good, check, call would be my line.

I think the BB losing interest means 2 things he took a punt at the flop and failed or he gave up his small pair or 10x

Button could have called you with a wide range of hands that now have you well beat, so you may need free cards more than them, check/check check/call it down.

Its worth staying in the hand but just dont let it cost alot to do so, plus if I had Q10 or QJ in this hand versus you I'd be trying to let you improve enough to call a good sized bet on the river and I'd be loving you betting into me even small, and I'd be praying you had a Q as well, I've seen this so often where 2 players flop the same trips and one always looses big to a better kicker or a house.
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07-02-2009 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninc
tnx for all your advise.

as it played out he called turn and

River: ($3.05) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.10

easy call with that weak bet?
Not an easy call with second pair, I see this bet as for value it looks like he wants a call, or a re-raise so he can push

1: If he's scared of the flush/straight/better trips or house just check behind you and see he's either won or not, so why give you the chance to go over the top, you have lead the betting so far, if this is an attempt to steal the pot its a poor one, not easy but prob a call anyway at 4-1.


I think in most situations you are beat AA, AK, AJ, QQ, any 2 spades, 89, Qx, 1010, JJ, 33 or he has KJ as well
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