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NL10 can i fold river if no flush is there ? NL10 can i fold river if no flush is there ?

03-16-2016 , 08:32 AM
I cbet with AA 3-way and Blind calls.
He is unknown and Turn is J234 with two FD.
He calls and donkshove River, i thought every set or str8 without FD should have raise the turn.
888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) FAST - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 117.3 BB
SB: 90 BB
BB: 100.7 BB
UTG: 48.8 BB
Hero (MP): 130.4 BB
CO: 121.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 4 3 J
SB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, fold, SB calls 7 BB

Turn: (24 BB, 2 players) 2
SB checks, Hero bets 18 BB, SB calls 18 BB

River: (60 BB, 2 players) 4
SB bets 62 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 62 BB
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03-16-2016 , 09:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by philkill
He calls and donkshove River, i thought every set or str8 without FD should have raise the turn.
They probably should, but 90bb stack is fishy so doesn't mean he won't slowplay when he shouldn't.

You're pretty high up in your range here tbh, only stronger hands are 44, 33, JJ so it feels weak to fold. Guy like this could think he's trapping you with TPTK or QQ or KK or something weird enough to make it a call, or could be a random missed draw bluff. Feels like a groan and call, Jx is probably a fold though.
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03-18-2016 , 09:31 AM
The problem is im not sure if any of this fishes do c/c, donk as a bluff.
Also he could have the 4 of course.
Normally i fold to this line, but this time it felt very weak because he could potentially (i thought this) either rarely make a tilty move or maybe that was my mistake donk here with Jx potsize after c/c the turn.
He had Ad5d a hand that had also a FD on River.
Problem i think in my game was that i really snapcalled, because the line c/c, donkshove if no flush is there is unusual of course.
But its really close of course, but i think most players just play like QQ,KK not this way and of course also they dont coldcall this often.
Because the fact i really was top of range and i didnt knew him i thought this was a snapcall, cant fold if no draw hits and somebody donkshoves and i have overpair to this line i thought.

But i want to look for call donk river, i really want to know if there is one single hand it was a bluff.

Looking at it, it seemed like with higher sizes it nearly always was a str8 or a Flush (mainly because i called with FH) and one time it was TPTK on KJxJ board, but not one single bluff in 15 hands, maybe i should include raise the donk to get more hits, but like you see, it seems like this is normally just near nuts calling turn, donking river and a bluffing never until now, maybe they did and i folded if a flush was there but very rarely.
Maybe someone with a bigger database can filter for bet turn, call donk river.

Last edited by philkill; 03-18-2016 at 09:43 AM.
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03-18-2016 , 09:53 AM
I agree V is probably value betting the river but I think it's with a worst hand enough of the time to justify a call. Plus there is always a chance he's bluffing with a missed draw or something.
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03-20-2016 , 01:09 AM
Folding here is just bad, im snap calling this
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03-20-2016 , 03:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by philkill
I cbet with AA 3-way and Blind calls.
He is unknown and Turn is J234 with two FD.
He calls and donkshove River
You do know that you posted the HH right? That's what it's there for, we don't need a narrator

@someposterabove How high up in your range you are doesn't matter when villain isn't playing a balanced range

Calling is forgiveable though I think it's a fold unless you know he's a spaz
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