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11-08-2008 , 12:55 PM

Coded

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Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $18.50
UTG: $5.70
Hero (MP): $13.40
CO: $8.10
BTN: $7.05
SB: $13.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with T

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) J

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, CO raises to $1.20, SB folds, BB folds, [color=red]Hero ??

Villain was 30/9/0.5 over 30 hands so not much of a read.

Do i 3bet here or just call? I usually just call with a SD or FD but with SD + FD if i 3bet how much?

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11-08-2008 , 01:09 PM

Lunatic2333

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I'd raise potsize here with the intention of getting it in. You have some fold equity here because the donkbet and minraise look weak imo and plenty of outs if called.

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11-08-2008 , 03:39 PM

Swingin

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I'd also go with ~ the pot here. I'm happy stacking off in this situation. Here's a quick calculation against already-made hands.

Results from http:\\www.HoldEmRanger.com
41,580 evaluations, 42 hole card combos

Board: Jd Qd 4s

Wins Ties Equity
53.51% 0.19% 53.70% ( TdKd )
46.10% 0.19% 46.30% ( JQ, QK, QA, J4, 44 )

Get it in!

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11-08-2008 , 03:53 PM

bloodflop&tears

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I like a bit bigger bet on the flop, but getting raised is just a wet dream, 3 bet pot as above had said, and hope to get it in.

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11-08-2008 , 04:09 PM

Gilgamesh69

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Originally Posted by bloodflop&tears

I like a bit bigger bet on the flop, but getting raised is just a wet dream, 3 bet pot as above had said, and hope that villain folds.

FYP

Simply because you win more that way

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11-08-2008 , 07:35 PM

AbekatDK

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id also be happy with a bigger bet close to the potsize, but as played an alternative could be to call his raise and hope for a raise on turn as our villian has a kinda low AF and now suddenly reraise us on the flop. You get a pretty cheap card to complete your heavy draw and our guys seems to be happy to get some $$ in..

a 3bet to about $3,5 wouldnt be bad either looking at ranges with made hands.

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11-08-2008 , 07:46 PM

theshadypeach

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Unless you have a read that villain minraises with hands he won't fold, just raise to pot with intention of getting it in.

If villain is a station it would be more profitable to flat and bet it when you hit, but you can't go wrong with getting it in.

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11-08-2008 , 08:05 PM

Domesticllama

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Try to get it in here. Against every made hand that is out there you have a lot of equity. Also, swingin's range is a bit to tight. 9T, KT, and other flush draws are potentially in his range. 30 hands isn't enough to tell if he is aggressive postflop on draws. Just keep pushing this hand on the flop, as your hand benefits the most by seeing 2 cards, not just 1.

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11-08-2008 , 09:21 PM

adamcadaver

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Originally Posted by Coded

Do i 3bet here or just call? I usually just call with a SD or FD but with SD + FD if i 3bet how much?

not sure about what you mean there, there are spots were you should be folding naked SDs and FDs (I dont mean SD+FD :S).

Anyway so far you've played the hand well, definitely shove now though

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11-08-2008 , 09:30 PM

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zburko

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CIB

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11-08-2008 , 09:42 PM

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adamcadaver

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Originally Posted by zburko

CIB

helpful

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11-08-2008 , 10:44 PM

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FusterCluck

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I'd add .5-1bb to the pfr size, and also cbet the flop for more like 1-1.2. If these are your standards, they are a bit too small imo. As played, I'd get it in now while our equity is the greatest.

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11-08-2008 , 10:47 PM

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d_smith77

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Originally Posted by zburko

CIB

of all your reasonable options, this is the worst.

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11-08-2008 , 10:51 PM

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Ksight3

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3bet to ~3. if he 4bets, AI. If he shoves call
if he calls lead turn n get it in

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11-08-2008 , 10:52 PM

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FusterCluck

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Originally Posted by zburko

CIB

CIB= check it back, amirite? If so, awful.

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11-08-2008 , 11:00 PM

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d_smith77

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Originally Posted by FusterCluck

CIB= check it back, amirite? If so, awful.

yup/

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11-08-2008 , 11:30 PM

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ToadSage

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instashove, i like instashove here ^^

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11-09-2008 , 12:08 AM

#18

JackOfPain

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fistpump snapcall all in, really you have a straight flush combodraw.
calling is way to weak for this beauty

you are sure he has a decent hand, but you are way ahead in equity + FE.

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11-09-2008 , 12:12 AM

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Navie

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u have to call 60c to win 1.80, which is 33.33% u ahve to hit and win correctly.
yr getting 15/47=around 31% yr gonna hit, pretty close, + u could make him pay more as u hit, so u have some good implied odds after, i'd call here. many many outs!

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11-09-2008 , 12:14 AM

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demon102

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Get in as much money here as possible.

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