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10-09-2009 , 09:38 AM

Shivoo

enthusiast

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 55

Hi guys I would appreciate your opinions on my recent hand. Villain is playing 10/4/2 over a decent sample. My question is simple: fold or call?

Thank you very much in advance...

Party Poker $10 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $9.71
UTG+1: $9.85
Hero (MP): $10.03
CO: $5.42
BTN: $9.74
SB: $10.14
BB: $10.76

Pre Flop: ($0.00) Hero is MP with 4

UTG calls $0, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) Q

(3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.35, BTN folds, UTG calls $1.35

Turn: ($4.20) T

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.75, UTG raises to $7.86 all in, Hero ???

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10-09-2009 , 09:47 AM

xxMaquiladoraxx

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,968

Definitely never folding after putting half your stack in. That being said, if you have a decent sample, you should have some sort of idea of what villains stack-off range is; i.e. if he does this with a hand like AdQd.

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10-09-2009 , 09:54 AM

Highlimit

journeyman

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 361

Call. He has AQ and putting you on AK or spade draw. I think if he has AA,KK,QQ he would have 3 bet.

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10-09-2009 , 10:03 AM

Ywellc

centurion

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 191

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Originally Posted by Shivoo

My question is simple: fold or call?

Never fold here after getting ~50% of your stack in. If villain flopped and overset or floated pocket 10s through your perceived c-bet and struck gold that sucks, but too bad. Too many FDs, especially ones like QdXd are doing this here.

At first look I like your bet sizing, but personally with 2 spades on flop I bet full pot (I'd probably overbet w/o a blocker) and when 2 FDs fall on the turn and I'm holding a set in a pot that (would be $4.50) villain looks interested in I overbet pot for ~$5 and make this an even easier call.

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10-09-2009 , 01:06 PM

Crazy Fo Fo

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 164

I don't think he's limping with QQ in this spot, and probably not TT or 55 either.

Snap-call + a giggle.

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10-09-2009 , 01:09 PM

Shivoo

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 55

Thank you very much for replies... :-) This is how the hand turned out.

Turn: ($4.20) T

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.75, UTG raises to $7.86 all in, Hero calls $4.11

River: ($19.92) 2

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $19.92
UTG shows 5

( three of a kind, fives)
UTG wins $19.07
(Rake: $0.85)

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10-09-2009 , 01:50 PM

basalo

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 144

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shivoo

Thank you very much for replies... :-) This is how the hand turned out.

Turn: ($4.20) T

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.75, UTG raises to $7.86 all in, Hero calls $4.11

River: ($19.92) 2

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $19.92
UTG shows 5

( three of a kind, fives)
UTG wins $19.07
(Rake: $0.85)

just a cooler, move on,
im not folding there

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10-09-2009 , 02:15 PM

DonkDonkDonkDonk

Goose

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 40,569

Learn to river quads.

Also, don't fold, although 10/4 is very setmining stats but you've invested half your stack.

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10-09-2009 , 02:32 PM

Highlimit

journeyman

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 361

I still call. move on.

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10-09-2009 , 02:45 PM

#10

pierrot_lune

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 388

I never fold here.
You may be beat sometimes but it definitly ev+.

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10-09-2009 , 02:48 PM

#11

Strongsville

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,317

Before you even posted results I knew he had 55. With a gap like that in his stats and from what I've seen, it's only small pocket pairs from this guy. I would still stack off though.

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10-09-2009 , 02:49 PM

#12

angry_man

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,108

Yep, standard cooler. There *might* be something to think about if he check-raises the flop given his stats, I suppose, but you have too much committed as played to fold.

Am I alone in disliking a 5*bb preflop open here?

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10-09-2009 , 02:53 PM

#13

Panik

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 470

Call this!

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