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02-25-2012 , 04:05 AM
Villain is a 32/15/2.3 in 87 hands, and fold to 3bet 33% (he called 2 of 3 bets) I only remmeber one when he called button and in a KJ3 suited board, he bet vs a missed cbet.
So I didnt knew what to expect.

I X with the intention of Jamming, since I think there are many hands he will bet and call the jam (Most jacks, 99, I think even 77 he may consider it, and he may do the same with AQ) I thought it was the easiest way to play the hand. and since my only memory of him calling 3bet was quickly betting against a missed cbet in a decently wet board i thought it was a good idea.
Well when he X back and i get the Q I feel in a very weird spot.
I just decided to XC for pot control mostly.
But I have no idea what he jams the river with.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $55.40 (110.8 bb)
MP: $52.58 (105.2 bb)
CO: $47.16 (94.3 bb)
BTN: $56.64 (113.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
MP folds, CO raises to $1.50, BTN folds, Hero raises to $5.50, BB folds, CO calls $4

Flop: ($11.50) J 8 T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($11.50) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8, Hero calls $8

River: ($27.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $33.66 and is all-in
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02-25-2012 , 04:25 AM
Just bet the flop you get value and makes it so much easier on later streets
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02-25-2012 , 04:50 AM
fps
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02-25-2012 , 05:37 AM
Not even close to FPS really.
Really If i I bet the flop and he calls and I get in this turn I dont know how im even close to a better position fwiw. And this would happen with many turns. My move just tried to get me away from seeing a turn.
I'm not even sure Cbetting this flop is more standard than Xjamming it against very loose preflop players.
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02-25-2012 , 08:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosprey
Villain is a 32/15/2.3 in 87 hands, and fold to 3bet 33% (he called 2 of 3 bets) I only remmeber one when he called button and in a KJ3 suited board, he bet vs a missed cbet.
So I didnt knew what to expect.

I X with the intention of Jamming, since I think there are many hands he will bet and call the jam (Most jacks, 99, I think even 77 he may consider it, and he may do the same with AQ) I thought it was the easiest way to play the hand. and since my only memory of him calling 3bet was quickly betting against a missed cbet in a decently wet board i thought it was a good idea.
Well when he X back and i get the Q I feel in a very weird spot.
I just decided to XC for pot control mostly.
But I have no idea what he jams the river with.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $55.40 (110.8 bb)
MP: $52.58 (105.2 bb)
CO: $47.16 (94.3 bb)
BTN: $56.64 (113.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
MP folds, CO raises to $1.50, BTN folds, Hero raises to $5.50, BB folds, CO calls $4

Flop: ($11.50) J 8 T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($11.50) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8, Hero calls $8

River: ($27.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $33.66 and is all-in
Fold River, he has a Flush or AK.

We can discount sets, because sets fire Flop almost always.

I like your Flop check though.

Cbet Flop is ok if we fold vs. a raise. Because we are crushed by sets, two pair and flipping vs draws. Not a good spot to get your money in.

Now you can flame me...:-)

Last edited by Cosmic Baby; 02-25-2012 at 08:45 AM.
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02-25-2012 , 09:00 AM
Good job if you bluffed me. I fold here.
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02-25-2012 , 09:03 AM
fold otr. and cbet for value otf, he is going to call with so many worse hands that we are losing value here
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02-25-2012 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Baby
I like your Flop check though.
i think the board is too draw heavy and we have to bet here.
anyone considering stacking off on flop if he re-raises?

Last edited by digitalanarchist; 02-25-2012 at 11:46 AM.
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02-25-2012 , 11:45 AM
Can't see any benefits to checking flop honestly. There are plenty of pair + straight draws that he will peel with and might not necessary bet. The turn is one of the worse cards in the deck. Since he is full stacked you'd probably have the implied odds to x/c turn and try to make a boat since he will never fold a flush or straight.
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