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NL 200 3b pot I really don't want to fold NL 200 3b pot I really don't want to fold

10-23-2010 , 07:40 AM
Merge $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $235.25
BTN/SB: $180.25

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with T T
BTN/SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $23, BTN/SB calls $17

Flop: ($46.00) K 9 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $28.00, BTN/SB calls $28

Turn: ($102.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $73.50

Villain has 45% steal, 0% f3bet. When he takes this sizing I really don't want to fold as there is no reason for him to bet this big given stack sizes with a 9 or a K. I know we really beat only semibluffs and pure floats but does anyone not hate continuing?
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10-23-2010 , 01:12 PM
no1 wants this situation but its a fold unless u have a specific read.he is trying to put more money in the pot and it seems like he has a strong hand thus u beat nothing so fold
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10-23-2010 , 01:34 PM
way more info needed, if ur 3bettin like a mad man you can never give this up, how often does he fold to cbet in 3b pot - that would prob be one of the most deciding factors, and also whether i thought he would be more likely to make a move with a draw on the flop.
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10-23-2010 , 01:35 PM
without great reads and super aggro dynamics, it is snap fold
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10-23-2010 , 08:51 PM
I agree with jekus here. Without any reads on his standard play in 3b pots - I'm folding.


Why 3b to 23 here? any reason in particular?
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10-23-2010 , 10:30 PM
Villain is only raising 45% buttons against that type of villain I don't think continuing here is profitable. I think he might check back a draw on the turn..
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10-23-2010 , 11:56 PM
why would he ck back a draw?
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10-24-2010 , 12:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alex23
Villain has 45% steal, 0% f3bet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Dobos
Why 3b to 23 here? any reason in particular?
i assume this is why, which is fine. we need some reads on how he thinks/plays postflop tho, surely we know more than this.
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10-24-2010 , 10:28 AM
yeah this is tough
its either
jam vs draws
call safe rivers
fold

I like fold
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10-24-2010 , 10:33 AM
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 16.894% 16.89% 00.00% 1063 0.00 { TcTs }
Hand 1: 83.106% 83.11% 00.00% 5229 0.00 { KK, 99, 33, AhQh, AhJh, AhTh, A9s, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, A3s, Ah2h, K2s+, QhJh, QhTh, Q9s, Qh8h, JhTh, J9s, Jh8h, T9s, Th8h, Th7h, 96s+, 8h7h, 8h6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, 5h4h, A9o, K8o+, Q9o, J9o, T9o, 97o+ }

And he might not even be betting all of the flush draws here (especially the bad ones) depending on how he plays. Adding in all the combos of gutshots isn't going to change this enough. So unless you think your opponent floats almost always, this is a pretty clear turn card to check fold on. He's gotta have a fold to cbet in this spot of like 25% or less to make this a profitable shove.
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