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NFD + Gutshot vs turn raise from tight villain. call or fold? [with stats] NFD + Gutshot vs turn raise from tight villain. call or fold? [with stats]

06-22-2022 , 03:55 PM
PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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UTG: $2.00 (100 bb)
MP: $6.23 (312 bb)
CO: $1.58 (79 bb)
BU: $2.00 (100 bb)
SB: $5.05 (253 bb)
BB (Hero): $2.26 (113 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with K J
1 fold, MP raises to $0.05, 3 players fold, Hero calls $0.03

Flop: ($0.11) T 9 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($0.11) A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.07, MP raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.13

River: ($0.51) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, MP raises to $0.67, Hero raises to $2.01 (all-in), MP calls $1.34

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villains stats:
NFD + Gutshot vs turn raise from tight villain. call or fold? [with stats] Quote
06-22-2022 , 04:03 PM
Our implieds are probably just about OK, calling turn raises oop is obv rarely good but fold or jam are worse. Turn bet is suspect?
NFD + Gutshot vs turn raise from tight villain. call or fold? [with stats] Quote
06-22-2022 , 04:17 PM
would you prefer to check turn instead?

I would take this line vs an unknown player but vs this one I think it's worth it to try to steal the pot
NFD + Gutshot vs turn raise from tight villain. call or fold? [with stats] Quote
06-22-2022 , 04:21 PM
Never properly understood donk bets so dunno. Ace is a decent card for his range so checking is making more sense for us, I believe.
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06-23-2022 , 04:06 AM
Pre could make an argument for both 3betting and flatting, 3betting for value against this villain seems pretty thin and our hand feels too strong to 3bet as a bluff so I think flatting is totally ok and would be doing that myself.

What was your plan for the flop? I think this is a spot where I could see myself check raising. Turn as played I don't like bluffing, or semi bluffing as we are here, in to an Ace even after the villain checks back the flop. If we were in position and villain checked again I would have bet with our hand just because I want some money in the pot for when we are called and we have a ton of outs.

A non club Q is the money card for us and I would check to the villain, it does not likely look scary to him and I am not presuming he at least has top pair so I would be check/shoving over his bet and expect every Ax to look us up just because of the weird line and board that does not look too threatening.
NFD + Gutshot vs turn raise from tight villain. call or fold? [with stats] Quote
06-23-2022 , 11:19 AM
I would xc tuen, nothing wrong with betting. Generally on A turn you should use big OB as standard.

River lead is not standard to say the least, but it might be better then check. If he is going to check all one pair hands and raise your lead with 2p+. Ofc this way you lose value from bluffs but it's hard for him to find bluffs on Q river.
NFD + Gutshot vs turn raise from tight villain. call or fold? [with stats] Quote
06-23-2022 , 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
I would xc tuen, nothing wrong with betting. Generally on A turn you should use big OB as standard.

River lead is not standard to say the least, but it might be better then check. If he is going to check all one pair hands and raise your lead with 2p+. Ofc this way you lose value from bluffs but it's hard for him to find bluffs on Q river.
Do you or anyone have a good heuristic for which bluffs to put in the OB lead range vs which to x/r? (GTOwiz really prefers leading with this hand/J8cc/QJcc for whatever that's worth)
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06-23-2022 , 03:31 PM
Probably lead nut draws with less SDV and x/r and xc ines that have some SDV.
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