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N50, river hero call spot 4bp vs uzi spew maniac N50, river hero call spot 4bp vs uzi spew maniac

02-25-2014 , 07:32 PM
This guy was totally out of control. 45% 3b, 60% 5bet 100% cbet 3bet pot etc. Is this a spot to hero call or should I wait for a better spot?



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #24053771

Hero (BB): $107.52 (215 bb)
SB: $78.08 (156.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 7
SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, SB raises to $11, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($22) 9 9 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: ($39) J (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: ($39) T (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $58.58 and is all-in, Hero?
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02-25-2014 , 07:47 PM
I know he is a maniac but I am assuming he is a somewhat thinking player from his bet sizings etc.

Don't know why he wouldn't bluff the turn, with hands that then decide to overbet ship river. I think once you check the river he can probably be pretty confident (or would be at least) to do this somewhat thin for value. I'm tempted but think I wait for a better spot
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02-25-2014 , 07:54 PM
can flat pre (hi spladle), not the best 3bet if you're facing lots of potential 4bets with these stack sizes. as played, you should have a close look at your river range here - i fold.

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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem1848
Is this a spot to hero call
yes, you should bluffcatch here sometimes.

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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem1848
or should I wait for a better hand?
^^
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02-25-2014 , 09:44 PM
What's your minimum 3 bet PP vs this type of villain?
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02-25-2014 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FloppinPairs
I know he is a maniac but I am assuming he is a somewhat thinking player from his bet sizings etc.

Don't know why he wouldn't bluff the turn, with hands that then decide to overbet ship river. I think once you check the river he can probably be pretty confident (or would be at least) to do this somewhat thin for value. I'm tempted but think I wait for a better spot
Thanks, I time banked and folded. I worry about thin value in spots like this and a lot of times will only hero call with decent T's because of that.
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03-01-2014 , 03:55 PM
This is the problem vs guys like this. When you play like this preflop he will put a lot of pressure on you when overcards to your pp comes postflop. And this will happen often with this hand.

There will be lots of room for you to make mistakes because, hey, pot is getting big, hes a maniac, and you got a made hand, right?

Prob better to just call preflop and hope to hit a set on F with this hand. You will not have a problem building the pot vs him anyway, even deepstacked.

Alternatively, if you dont mind variance, you could just shove over his 4b preflop.

You didnt include info about his 4b tendencies, but if we assume he likes to 4b and will stack off easily(many maniacs do, even 150bb deep), then we BE when he calls our shove with something like 22+, ATs+, ATo+, KJs+, KJo+.

And since he will also fold to your shove every now and again, this is a profitable play here.
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03-01-2014 , 05:25 PM
any Tx seems a fairly easy value bet
some JJ 9x TT, KQ got there
super remote chance he's bluffing , clear fold imo
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03-01-2014 , 09:25 PM
YOur 200 bbs deep against a maniac hes going to push you off a low pair like this. it sjust not a good spot for 200 bbs. I would of called pre and not 3 b here. not against this guy. Can't 4 bet shove 200 bbs with 7s pre. Thats a little spewy on your side. But as played I would raise the flop and get it in. I don't know how good of a flop you want for 7s without hitting 7. That is as good as its going to get. Its not going to look any better for your 7s on the turn or river. You got to get it in. He might call all in with ak aq aj a10. Its unlikely he has 9. IF he has 9 then what a lucky guy. Hes a maniac its very hard for both players to have a pair here in heads up. I don't understand why anyone would just call against this kind of player on the flop. He might even have pocket 6s here. He can have anything hes a maniac. He will call with worse. I seen them call with just 2 overs so many times praying they suck out. He bet 8.50 i would raise to around 30 to 35. Looks like he has pocket 10s though. That river jam id be folding here.
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