orig raiser is 20/13 raising 17% from EP and c-betting 42% (ag level 1.4). 1st caller is 19/17 ag level 3.2. I am on btn running 20/16 ag level 3.5 bet IP 56% on flop.



Here is my thinking:

orig. raiser's check pretty much means what it says, but 1st caller's .7 PSB gives a few impressions:

1) because I am seen as an aggressive player, villain would be more likely to check with TP or a set...the board is very dry minus the OESD, so I deduced that this bet was designed more to protect some kind of made hand. A pair of ten's was certainly possible, but since I have a ten that is less likely. So, I put villain on something like 22-44, 55-99, JQ, or air (unlikely).

2) I obv. just call; no better hand is folding, nor is any worse hand calling. I felt that villain was putting me on an extremely wide range (56s-KQs, 22-JJ, Axs), and the turn could bring so many scary-looking cards that it was prudent to just end the hand here.

3) the 3s is an absolute blank, and when he checks, I check behind, trying to rep the JQ straight draw. mistake here?

4) the 7d is a great card in that respect, so when he checks I bet about .66 PSB with my TPTK in hopes of getting value from worse tens and his previously mentioned range. JJ is certainly in his range, but it is a small portion of it.

5) when villain folds I am left wondering if my bet-sizing was off, because I just dont see this player completely bluffing. He is savvy enough to know that I may check behind with TP to induce such a river call, so perhaps this is just a pointless topic.

Anyways, lemme know what you think!

pre is meh, flop is fine, river seems a bit thin. He can't have many worse Tx when he coldcalls utg open
and your perceived range isn't nearly as wide as you think so he's not going to call with PP's. And you shouldn't check QJ on the turn so don't check if you want to rep it

bet the turn when he slows down for protection and to win the pot right there. The way you played it I would just check the river because I dont think he is ever really calling with worse so just hope your ahead at SD

also ccing preflop is very marginal imo and also you should probably be folding that flop the vast majority of the time

Why is calling in position with a good suited ace bad? I'm not looking to hit an ace and stack off...

it's not exactly bad but questionable because neither of them has many dominated hands in their range and you are not going to hit a flush often + you have 3 players acting behind you

I agree with you that their ranges do not contain many dominated aces...no argument there. Also, very true that flushes do not come around very often...I think the statistic is I will only flop 2 cards of the same suit 1 in 8 times?

So you are advocating that a call w/87s, for example, would be better? A hand that is not dominated has both cards working for it?

When it comes to having 3 players yet to act, I assume you are talking about the possibility of them squeezing? I would agree that this is an important point to consider, but if two of those three players are, say, fish, I would be even more inclined to call since they will be calling with a wide range and improving my pot odds.

personally i wouldn't call with 87s either from CO. OTB would be better. And yes ppl can squeeze as a bluff or just have a strong hand. If there's two fish behind calling is obv a lot better