Which would be best bench mark? Making 40 buy ins for next level at current level or Judging by my session results over next month if I am ready? I can see by the hands that I lose by making bad decisions are getting less and less. Everybody will make bad call at every level once & a while. I also know there is more variance to bankroll when you move up.

What level?

I'm planning on moving up to 10nl when I reach 20 buy ins.

From 4NL TO 10NL. I could deposit 100 BIs if I wanted to, but want to build bankroll from bottom up. I love challenge of game and figuring out people and their tendencies. I think there are more recreational players @ 4nl which can be both profitable and hair pulling. Where I play it looks like 2-3 times more 4nl over 10nl tables going. I have only played online seriously for 2 months lost $22 in first month last night I was +$6. still behind because of rake. Maybe I will set $200 as my move up goal. I have so much on my plate I only get to play about 10-12 hours per week. Guy at my weekly live game said "why do you waste your time playing for pennies" as he proceeds to loose $20+ every week at 50nl. Playing online has really opened my eyes to how soft live is. These old timers when I started playing agro like online they got pissed and said I could go play else were. So I play tight limp and value bet heavy on made hands because they love to call.

If money is not an issue and you have some experience in poker (you can read boards and not make rookie mistakes), you should move up as fast as you can.

It will help you get better if you have the fundamentals learned.

if you`re beating 4nl with a decent wr, you shouldn`t really be having any problems at 10nl

I'm not crushing it would like win rate to be better. Have nights when all it seems like I win is blinds. Everyone super tight won't even call minraises. I still have trouble with agro monkeys or calling stations sometimes. I am still working on getting more value out of good hands to bring WR up. I in no hurry, but feels like gains are so small and rake can eat at that profit. What would be a good win rate ?/100BB be?
Thanks for advice.

Around 10bb/100+ at micros, esp if you`re playing on nonStars site. Don`t really focus on winrate, but focus on feeling "comfortable" and understanding more and more situations.

If you`re limited in table selection and action is really bad, maybe you could try 6max and see if that suits you better.

ok thanks yes I been more focused on good decisions. that is a sticky note on computer good decisions= great results

What is your winrate now? Over what sample size? We all want our winrate to be better!

This happens to all of us. You will have long stretches of break even or losing poker. Don't worry about it.

There are fundamentals of poker that you have to learn. Calling stations are the ATMs of the poker world. The agro monkeys get better and more aggro as you move up. If you are having problems with them at 4NL, then you are not ready.

Move up when you feel you have a solid, fundamental game. 4NL is cheaper to make mistakes at than 10NL is. You should be well versed in Poker 101 before you advance. Consider this your HoldEm Syllabus:

Open Raise ranges: Know what you are opening in what position and why. Learn what adjustments you need to make to that range based on the position of the fish and the agro monkeys in the hand. Overall, a VPIP of somewhere in 12-17, and PFR of 10-15 for FR. There should be less than 4 points difference between your VPIP/PFR. Stop calling so much.

Learn to change seats for better position when the opportunity presents itself. This way you can neutralize the agro monkeys and better exploit the fishies.

Cbetting: Spend some time learning how to Cbet effectively. You should be Cbetting 70-80% with a Cbet success of over 40%. Learn what players to dial it back against and which ones to mash the pot button against when you are ahead. (Here's a hint- don't even bother Cbetting a calling station without a hand, but when you do, bet bigger!) Learn when to Cbet smaller and against what player types, learn to bet bigger so that you can get stacks in easier when you want to.

ISO-raising. Learn when, how, and with what range to isolate a single limper and multiple limpers, both in and out of position. Learn what ranges to use in those situations and what boards to Cbet against the limpers.

3Betting: Learn how to 3bet for value (hint: It involves more than just KK+) and how to respond to 3bets. Learn what ranges to use against different player types and vs their individual positional Raise First In stat. Learn about how to manipulate SPR preflop and what different SPRs mean to the lines that you will take.

Stealing the Blinds: Learn how to become a blind thief. You should be well above 20% from the CO and above 30% from the BTN or more.

Blind Play: Your combined losses from the blinds should be -60bb/100 or less. That is the bare minimum to shoot for. -50bb/100 is excellent.

Know what your stats should be. Go to showdown around 25% of the time. Win money when seeing the flop over 35%. Win money at Showdown: Depending on your style it should be within one of two ranges. Either 45-48% OR 52-55%. If you differ from these ranges, find out why.

Create default lines for different hand strengths so that you don't have quite so many "I'm lost" moments. Learn when and how to deviate from those default lines.

Learn how to play draws. When to raise and get it in on the flop and when to just check and call. Learn what draws are worthless and either bluff raise or fold them. Learn what your pot odds are vs what you actually need to continue in the hand. Learn to fold when they do not match up correctly.

Learn to fold TPTK and Overpairs when the situation calls for it. Get rid of losing hands quicker by folding earlier in the hand. Seriously, learn to fold more.

Learn how to handle being raised on the flop, turn, and river and what hand strengths you really need to continue in those spots. Believe your opponents, they aren't bluffing you anywhere near as much as you think they are. Learn the difference between a likely bluff and the likely nuts.

Learn to handle the short stackers. What ranges to use to 3bet/stack against them preflop. Learn what hand strength you need to stack against them post-flop.

If you read all of that and just kept nodding your head saying, "yup, I know that, and that, and that...." Congrats, you are ready to move up. If you read that and thought, I don't know that.. or that.... or that.... well, then maybe begin studying.

I'm sure there are more that we could consider fundamentals, but that should give you a good start. The decision to move up should be based upon our knowledge base and proficiency, not on a winrate that may be biased one way or the other by variance. In the end, if you have to ask someone else if you are ready to move up........ then you are not ready.

ATCWIZ

ATCWIZ. Thanks for the read I have no problem working on all those things I have good understanding of most of it. I like your %stats that is what I am trying to find more info on what my hud stats are telling me about me.