Hello Everyone,
I'd like to know Yours opinion about this hand.
I don't know if my call Pre was OK, but also I've made mistake by not reraising the Flop in my opinion.
Thanks in advice for replies.

Villan after ~500 hands:
VPIP: 25.6
PFR: 16.3
Steal: 29%
Agg: 2.4

Party Poker $4.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $7.92
Hero (SB): $5.08
BB: $7.84
UTG: $4.06
MP: $4.17
CO: $4.91

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is SB with 5 5
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.28) 5 T 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BTN raises to $0.65, Hero calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.58) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.16, BTN calls $1.16


River: ($3.90) 7 (2 players)

3b the flop, why call and lead the turn? just seems stupid

i agree. either b/3b the flop, or call and C/RAI on the turn.

call pre is fine, never fold and no reason to 3b
I like the flop donk, now pop him back
bet turn big

I realy like how you played this hand and donking on this flop is super play if you ask me.

Do you guy realy think call pre is +EV vs. this type of villian?

3bet flop or C/R turn!

On the flop you have got to be way ahead only TT beats you. So the mistake was just calling his raise here giving him the chance to see another card. Should have raised again maybe all in. Then he would have a very difficult descision.

donk flop, 3bet flop, shove turn. ez game.

Lol

agreed

Thanks for replies.
I know now that i should have 3b the flop...

i like c/r on flop more than b/3b which is obv set....

as played 3b flop...c/r turn all in

How can you guys decide whether donk or CR flop is better without asking for villain's flop cbet%?
I snap CR this flop vs anyone with flop CB>70% (standard for TAGish stats like these imo) it is a bit closer with 50-60 and def donk vs <50% cbet.

I am not saying you guys are wrong, just feels like you are doing it for board texture only reasons.

Because you don't play poker 100% based on stats, like a robot. A player who cbets a lot (let's say, something like 80%) has a very wide range and most of the times will have to fold to your c/r. If you donk, he might go crazy and raise you. Then you can call and let him try to bluff the turn. Most players don't react well when donked into and tend to make more mistakes. When you c/r you make him play perfect against you.
On the other hand, if the villain cbets less, his cbetting range is stronger and you can call OTF and donk or c/r the turn.
You can do a lot of things, but the point is that you should be trying to get reads on your opponents instead of playing like a bot.

Ok.
1) Would you aggree that whatever he folds to a CR, he folds to a donk?
If yes, then CR is superior obv. If not, then we should track something like fold to flop donk bet and raise flop donk bet stats. Stats are reads too. Since OP didn't list any qualitative reads, that's all we can go off agreed?

2) You claim donk bets get called more often then CRes, I can believe that, but would like to see these #s for the villain. Are you saying this is a general micro trend where donk bets get called very light at like 70%+ rates?

3) I assumed preferrence to donk bet was based on the board texture only since no info/stats were given on villain's tendencies when facing a DB. Is this incorrect? Was this more based on general tendencies of a large population of micro players pool?

Thanks in advance. I come from a game where a DB 3W is a clear drooler mark worthy, forget about HU, so thanks for being patient and spelling this out for me.

1) Don't agree. If he has a good enough hand, the is money is going in whether you c/r or donk, so we're not worried with the top of his range. The middle of his range (marginal made hands and good draws) will call a donk and fold to a c/r. And the bottom of his range will surely fold to a c/r but might think you're full of s*** by donking and try something funny.
A stat like "raise flop donk bet" needs tons of hands to converge and it's very unlikely you will have such a sample size on microstakes players (mostly recreational), so you can't relly on that.

I have no personal preference for donking over c/r (though I think donk bets are a good and underrated play in a lot of spots), my point is to think outside the box. You said that you couldn't see how someone would even consider donking or c/r w/o looking at cbet stats. Sure, stats help and I use them all the time (with enouhg sample size), but what I mean is just not to be too much attached to stats.

Btw, start donking good hands OTF once in a while, specially vs regs, and you will see how badly people react to them and how much value you can get from it. Add this tool to your game, definetly won't hurt you.

Unless its a level dependent thing (unthinking villains) I hate re-reaising this flop. It represents far too narrow a range....sets or ATs...and allows villain to play his hand pretty much perfectly. DB or CR is largely a matter of taste without very clear stats to push it one way or the other. I would tend to prefer the flop line OP took because it keeps draws pre-dominant in my range and we can elicit a lot of calls when the turn and river miss, and doesnt wake villain up to the boat should the board pair and he hits a draw.

Leading the turn after the DB doesnt narrow hero's range quite as much as a flop reraise, and the turn card isnt likely to elicit a bet from anything that doesnt also call, and it isnt clear that villain will give us a CR opportunity after we lead/call the flop.

WP imo.

Oops. Read the spoiler. I don't like the river. Every draw in the world got there. Check/call a suck bet, check fold a big bet. Bad villains dont have implied odds for draws if you resolve to not stack off on them without an obvious read that its a bluff, even when you have a set. Crying calls for your stack tend to leave you crying.

By donking, I wanted to build the pot as quickly as possible, because it was only rasie-call preflop. I didn't want also to give my oponent a chance to take a free card.

I wanted a raise from him, but i don't know if only calling his raise is good idea.
If he is semi-bluffing, by calling i give him free card...

I don't like CR here bacuse his range should be wide here, so he can call with draws, and pot is still not big enough. Or he can reraise with big pairs, and then make the decision after I shove. I don't give him a chance to make big mistake.

If I take the line: DB/3B, he has to commit himself on the flop. Sometimes he is folding better hand and sometimes he shoves when he is underdog.

After all being said, I think that i should have 3B this flop.

Yeah, It was disaster. I didn't check my stack. I wanted to get called by overpairs, but after his shove i realized that it was bad idea ...

I'm really wondering about the same question. Meaning if I would be deeper (~200BB) then probably I call or most important who is on the BB cause if I guess he comes along then call is best for me too, but just HU against this Villan...doesn't seem to be profitable.