I second this question.

I think he just meant that towards shipitdonk since he quoted him but he didn't directly say that so I'd definitely confirm.

Just the bets I posted r off. sux I got stuck in the middle of a ****** situation so I'm gunna deal with it

yeah thanks NBB, really pathetic to b honest, if shipit didnt say id get paid, and i got the feeling right away with shipit he was a stand up dude and kept his word, when he owed he paid and what not, he was a real good guy--so i trusted his "vouch" for his best friend from home....felt like it would have almost been rude of me to say no u cant play unless u post up $$ after shipit gave me the "ok" on Vlad...and yes im really upset i allowed him to step foot in my house and catered to him/them and showed nice hospitality for it being the first time we have met, just a real bad read on my part.

The worst part about it was after Vlad got all pissed off at Marc, he is acting no better and in my eyes a hell of a lot worse, he talked down a lot about marcs character, and yes hes a sick degen, but he doesnt steal from people and when he owes money (when he has) he pays it back. Vlad is just the typical scumbag in my opinion that you deal with one time and then make sure NO ONE else goes thru it, guess im the 2p2 guinea pig.

i didnt want to cutoff shipit, and i still dont--but im not going to just act as though nothing happened and im not owed over $800 of "phantom $$" ...besides the fact i dont even think "phantom money" is a real term, last time i checked if you play a game and lose $500 or whatever, you owe that much even if it doesnt exchange hands at that given time. If i didnt KNOW that Vlad was making bets thru him against us, i would have atleast thought about it more, but the fact is the kid has money and just refuses to pay and says "i dont owe you"....hes at a $120 poker tourney now at derby lane in florida. His parents gave him $1000 on friday in vegas (Which is why i thought i was gettin paid regardless since he said he was gettin 1k atleast on friday)


again....the nature of the beast.


everyones still on

gl

didnt read post. shipitdonk has scammed 2+2ers in the past. dietpepsi has had a few questionable instances/threads. the two and their friends get together in vegas and a dissagreeement about debts and bets shows up!?!?! shocking. fwiw if it was solely DP running parlays there is no way id bet thru him and id spam the thread for everyone to do the same. howdoiplay obv is legit just wont cut ties with dp. the bj tourney thread is pretty hilarious. DP lieiing to hdip/investors, the two of them arguing about money yet theyre new business partners.

care to elaborate on this first part?

i still have my doubts about the BJ tourney raf so im not arguing with u and i question DP on a regular basis as to whether or not he still played it even, ask him if youd like....and its not so much we are "new business partners"...he showed me this thread and told me the day JRock quit that i should take over and book the parlays, so it wasnt so much we joined forces as it was me just being polite and doing the right thing by not throwing him aside and saying thanks for the idea to book all the bets (even though we are down a lot, just saying)....but i can see where u r coming from raf

main thing is please realize I DEAL with every penny that everyone gets, DP doesnt touch the $, he simply keeps track of the books and responds to PMs/answer questions, which saves me a lot of time so i show my appreciation by making sure he is taken care of, dont think thats so wrong right?

Sennz also had some shady **** happen to me while I was taking the parlays. I honestly thought him and DP were the same person, because I new they were from the same area. LOL, guess I was wrong on that one.

Shipit did let me know that he knew him, but after the shady stuff to always get an escrow from him, which was fine with me. Shipit was always upfront and honest with me, for what its worth...

final play of night

single bet $30:

Memphis -6.5 2H

Raft is refering to sum shyt that happened a a few years ago which the situation was resolved

yeah i prob didnt word it the best way. kinda hammered. but first bolded part...i dont feel like digging thru threads but shipit straight up scammed a guy. guy gets a hold of shipits mom and and mommy makes shipit pay guy back. think it was on a dif 2+2 name of his.

second bolded part i may be remembering wrong but im pretty sure he lied to you about the time of the tourney. reason we invested was bc you (credible) would verify hed be there. i realize u did all u could and handled it well, which is why i, and presumably others, place bets with the two of you bc we realize its you handling all the money.

HDIXX/DP13:

2 team NFL 2nd half parlay for $15 to win $42

San Diego -3
San Diego/San Francisco over 20.5

Beatbookie on Stars

ftr, i tried to get more proof this trip, but I am 86d from there and not allowed on property. also, the money i owed john from that trip (not his %), but the money he lent me I paid back in cash when I was there this trip. And although vlad and donk just met John i've known him the better part of a year already.

Does anyone want to bet $10-25 on the Saints/Ravens game Sunday?

PM me.

DP13...NBA Friday Night

NBA Parlay. $5 to win $32.50
Lakers -4.5 @ 76ers
Grizzlies +4 @ Rockets
Jazz -1 @ Hornets

NBA 5pt Teaser. $5 to win $30
Heat over Knicks pk
Lakers +.5 @ 76ers
Hornets +6 v Jazz
Grizzlies +9 @ Rockets
Mavs -2 v Suns
Thunder -6.5 v Kings

HDI/DP:

NBA 2nd half - 2 team parlay - $50 : 140

>spurs(pk) @ nuggets
>OVER 105.5

Depends which team you want to back.

Looking to bet $25 on the Jets +6 over the Steelers. Stars funds only. First to quote gets booked.

did the first post in this drama get deleted, seems like the begining of the story is missing from this thread, as it just starts with replies.

yea. howplayxx asked that it be deleted (and being it was his post, i obliged). if for any reason it needs to be reinstated, please let me know

howdoiplayxx

NBA Friday
New York Knicks +5 $150 to win$150

howdoiplayxx

$25 straight up

Heat-5 v Knicks

lakers-5.5 v 76ers

Jazz-1 v Hornets

Ravens

dp13 friday plays,

all plays here are NCAAB teams

single bet $20:
Tenn -6.5 1H

2 Team parlay $20:
Tenn -12.5
Utah -2.5

2 Team parlay $10:
Tenn -12.5
Chattanooga +3.5

ftr, i undeleted that post ( http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=7084 ). i think it is important that other bettors are made aware of this kind of behavior

HDIXX/DP13:

3 team NBA parlay for $20 to win $130

Miami/New York over 210.5
Phoenix/Dallas over 212
La Lakers -3 (first half bet)

Beatbookie on Stars