I am rolled for 25NL but currently grinding 10NL/PL FR because the tables there are super juicy, esp on happy hours. I have finally got 20k FTP's at full tilt (hit iron man for 2 straight months + 1 gold), and can reg for either cardrunners or stoxpoker, i can also sell these points and sign for deucescracked. i had read alot on the coaching forums but there nothing mentioned about micro stakes, so i prefer to ask this here as many of the guys here have/had experience with sites and i can trust them. I downloaded all goldserph (johnny everypot) and bottomset vids and liked them but still uncertain about DC.

So which one to pick?

dc - Bottomset only of either to come in here so that gets my vote

Stoxpoker is pretty decent imo, haven't tried Deuces Cracked though.

From what I've heard DC is the best for FR, but when you join you will soon find out it is more of a 6max site. (with regards to NL)

I would like to see a training site that specialises in NL FR games.

DC is excellent - they have some very good FR content (look for stuff by Goldseraph, bottomset, SoundedSimple and Nolan). I end up watching all kinds of DC vids anyway since they have lots of other random interesting stuff (like triple draw! =P).

From what I've heard, Stox is also pretty good for FR (esp since they have Split now).

from the limited amount i've seen of both, i'd say DC is a bit better for FR.

Btw, why are you playing nl10 on ftp if rolled for nl25... juicy games doesn't make up for the crazy rake.

DC - baluga = the nutz.

is split a guest or full time coach at stox?
notontilt09 - i wait for clearing the end year bonus at FTP and probably start 12-16 tbl 25NL, but right now i want to keep my bankroll from any serious swings (BR nit obv)

Nolan's "Moving On Up Full ****ing Ring" series (thats what he wanted to call it) is halfway through now and I think it's a great series.

The full ring output at DC has been growing, I'm working on a video with a guest appearance provisionally titled "The Top Ten Things Micro Full Ring No Limit Players Need To Do Better So That They Can Move Up To Small Stakes Full Ring No Limit". Let's hope the content matches the title.

Not sure of when it will be ready, I want it to be top notch so I'm taking my time. I'm also busy working on a software application thats kind of like pokerstove for semi-bluff calcs.

Oh yeah, in case you thought "wont bother because its 6-max" the latest LNC vid with Baluga has a mix of games including FR.

do you guys consider the sign-up fee as big impact for a micro-grinder? DC has non, while CR has 100$ signup fee

Easy choice IMO.

there is a lot of value in 6max/HU videos for fullring players, I play anything from 2h-9h and simply being able to start tables(fr tables are generally softest the first 50hands they are running) or keep playing comfortably if a table starts to break but still has a big fish(happens a bunch lol) has helped my WR a fair bit

I liked DC better plus no $100 sign up fee

CR has some big name players and more videos. It also has a sick 1 time sign up fee.

DC has some of the very best players of any site on the web, when it comes to explaining thought processes. Wilt on Tilt, Baluga Whale, Nolan, TubaSteve. Sounded Simple....you just will not find better guys explaining poker. Also Late Night with Joe Tall is simply fantastic.

The videos are great, yes there are more 6 max, but still a good deal of solid to great FR videos.

Also very friendly, and the coachs post in forums regarding hands and thoughts.

I am a member for both sites(did CR first) But if I could do it over, DC would be only thing for me.

Can not recomend or say enough good things about DC.

DC doesn't have DRM. That is quite a big deal, as the videos do not become worthless once you unsubscribe!

yes. my new series starts tomorrow (the 8th)

are u a Stox member?

no waiz!!!

No sir, but looks like i will sign for the "truly free training site" and hit Stox+CR for free, grind 7k ftp's per month + watching your series = ez game. i will probably get DC aswell when i get rolled for 50NL, there still some **** too good to miss.

nice. if u do get on Stox, check out my old video series (Back to Basics) from Oct. Very good series imo for the beginner covering a wide range of topics from isolating to CBing.

Also some other good 2p2rs on there (Pokey+MicroBob)

I have watched some DC content as well, and very much enjoyed stuff from SoundedSimple