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03-03-2020 , 04:47 PM
Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem $0.10(BB)
HERO ($12.48) [VPIP: 25.1% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 34% | 3-Bet: 11% | Hands: 206971]
SB ($13.41) [VPIP: 18.9% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 31% | 3-Bet: 5.4% | Hands: 388]
BB ($13.69) [VPIP: 34.1% | PFR: 27.3% | AGG: 47.6% | 3-Bet: 15% | Hands: 45]
UTG ($7.27) [VPIP: 19.1% | PFR: 12.3% | AGG: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 1.8% | Hands: 1058]
HJ ($18.92) [VPIP: 26.4% | PFR: 19.5% | AGG: 37.1% | 3-Bet: 10.3% | Hands: 537]
CO ($17.91) [VPIP: 20.9% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 34.7% | 3-Bet: 2.9% | Hands: 598]

Dealt to Hero: T 6

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.25, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.15

Hero SPR on Flop: [22.24 effective]
Flop ($0.55): K 6 K
BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.27 (Rem. Stack: 11.96), BB Calls $0.27 (Rem. Stack: 13.17)

Turn ($1.09): K 6 K A
BB Checks, HERO Checks

River ($1.09): K 6 K A 2
BB Bets $0.81 (Rem. Stack: 12.36), HERO Raises To $11.96 (allin)
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03-03-2020 , 05:47 PM
uhm
that's a big jam
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03-03-2020 , 06:01 PM
So the logic is (I assume):

- He can't have KK, AK, AA
- You block 66 & K6 & KT
- Normal raise gets called by any Kx because you could value-raise worse
- Only mega-overbet puts villain into a bluffcatching spot with most of range

Probably fine. Exploitatively I wouldn't do it.
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03-03-2020 , 06:26 PM
I wonder if having a 6 is actually bad because you block his bluffing range. Especially after the 1/2pot cbet and then villain's big bet on the river I think his range is weighted towards Kx pretty often when you are having a fair amount of Ax that can hero. I don't think your perceived to be checking back 66 at any point, probably not perceived to be checking AA on the turn so if your only really perceived to be repping AK for value (very possible) and villain has a K blocker I think you may get stationed very often. I do think it's an interesting line but I'm not too interested in trying to get micros villains to fold trips.
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03-03-2020 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 291
I wonder if having a 6 is actually bad because you block his bluffing range. Especially after the 1/2pot cbet and then villain's big bet on the river I think his range is weighted towards Kx pretty often when you are having a fair amount of Ax that can hero. I don't think your perceived to be checking back 66 at any point, probably not perceived to be checking AA on the turn so if your only really perceived to be repping AK for value (very possible) and villain has a K blocker I think you may get stationed very often. I do think it's an interesting line but I'm not too interested in trying to get micros villains to fold trips.
22 is a real possibility as well.
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03-03-2020 , 09:34 PM
I can understand what you're doing and why you're doing it, but I wonder if (exploitatively) it's even worth it to have a jamming bluff range for such a small pot in this kind of situation.
Don't get me wrong is a sexy as **** line, but maybe at best it looks unnecessary and at worst it looks counter-productive.
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03-03-2020 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
22 is a real possibility as well.
For you? I don't think you'd jam the nut worst boat vs anyone but a fish (in which case you wouldn't have a bluffing range at all really)

That said at first glance I don't hate it vs some villains, but I wouldn't jam like 6x pot vs some random. The pool is full of bad players man, I'd save this stuff for villains that you've analyzed to at least some extent
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03-03-2020 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
For you? I don't think you'd jam the nut worst boat vs anyone but a fish (in which case you wouldn't have a bluffing range at all really)

That said at first glance I don't hate it vs some villains, but I wouldn't jam like 6x pot vs some random. The pool is full of bad players man, I'd save this stuff for villains that you've analyzed to at least some extent
If you raise the river to like 30ishBB and Villain jams on you - do you fold 22?
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03-04-2020 , 12:31 AM
Don't like. It has to work sooo often to be profitable. Would not do it considering the little info we have on villain so far.

Sure he doesn't have the top boats on this board But this is a spot were so few people check back AA and AK. They just bet the turn because they want to build a big pot in case villain has a king. So imo you mostly rep 22.
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03-04-2020 , 03:12 PM
idk if we need a 3x pot jam range
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03-04-2020 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
If you raise the river to like 30ishBB and Villain jams on you - do you fold 22?
Looking at it here I probably would, less likely in game since I'm a station
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03-05-2020 , 12:07 AM
is there a meme for this?

goes for a steal of 1.5bb with crap, ends up spending 125bb for crap
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03-05-2020 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dubakkur2
is there a meme for this?

goes for a steal of 1.5bb with crap, ends up spending 125bb for crap
Preflop is standard. River is a whole different story. I wouldn't do this most of the time, especially versus villain's river sizing.
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03-05-2020 , 07:03 AM
typically the sort of overbet you should never do as a bluff at the micros
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03-05-2020 , 08:51 AM
This is going to unnecessarily lose you money imo.
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