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02-04-2014 , 01:56 AM
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 146.6 BB (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 20.93, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 182)
UTG: 172.5 BB (VPIP: 17.96, PFR: 15.05, 3Bet Preflop: 8.64, Hands: 214)
MP: 125.7 BB (VPIP: 28.27, PFR: 18.01, 3Bet Preflop: 3.73, Hands: 693)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.72, PFR: 21.35, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 93)
Hero (BTN): 123.4 BB
SB: 109.7 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 5.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 A

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (12.5 BB, 4 players) 7 5 7
BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets 8 BB, fold, MP calls 8 BB, fold

Turn: (28.5 BB, 2 players) A
MP checks, Hero checks

River: (28.5 BB, 2 players) 6
MP bets 14 BB, fold

I don't usually call pre with this but I had a caller and I was IP. After we have 3 checks I'm obviously betting to try to get the pot now and check/fold the turn if I get called. The villains who raised, called and we have 2 folds. Then ott the A came and he checked again. I checked back because we can't expect to get call by worse almost never. OTR he bet and I folded. I was really sure he would have a higher A, horrible played it, but still, I can't see him check/calling an Overpair OTF and now bet it after an A came. He probably was bad enough to call with something like AQ/AK otf. Any thoughts?
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02-04-2014 , 06:49 AM
Any reason for not squeezing pre? It seems like a nice spot and BB has a high 3bet stat so he's likely to squeeze if you don't.

I don't like the flop bey as I don't think you're getting 3 folds.

My 1st thought was to check back the turn and call a reasonably sized river bet. However I'm struggling to see what value hands he does this with. 88 plus would have probably cbet the flop. In game I'd call and hope to see a random float but I'm not sure if it's the best play.
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02-04-2014 , 07:01 AM
Pre is gd, betting flop smaller, betting turm small to check back rvr,

Calling as played
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02-04-2014 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohhesdamned
Pre is gd, betting flop smaller, betting turm small to check back rvr,

Calling as played
wow... much wrong
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02-04-2014 , 08:40 AM
LOL deepz put your thoughts instead of these italian irony languange
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02-04-2014 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Deeepz
wow... much wrong
Wow such phaggot

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02-04-2014 , 09:06 AM
So what do we think villains range is for check calling here? What does our range look like?
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02-04-2014 , 09:15 AM
Bet flop not great with the reasoning you gave, I would check back
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02-04-2014 , 09:17 AM
Betting flop for value and to get villains to fold equity share is gd imo
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02-04-2014 , 09:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohhesdamned
Betting flop for value and to get villains to fold equity share is gd imo
getting villains to fold maybe, hard to get value though
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02-04-2014 , 05:08 PM
these italian irony language
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02-04-2014 , 05:13 PM
Hand is well played btw, although I think pre could be a squeeze as well.

Flop bet is good, otherwise you're just betting air and 55+ or something + people just fold really often + they'll just have worse all the time + protection, and before some ******o clown comes in to say you can't bet for protection... u can go **** yourself, ktnx
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02-04-2014 , 05:17 PM
call river though
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02-04-2014 , 05:37 PM
Would be interested in villains' fto3bet because squeeze pre seems doable here.

Would bet flop or turn, not both.

Calling river now.
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02-04-2014 , 05:37 PM
Yeah pre, flop and turn are fine as played imo.

Squeezing is meh, in position in a multi way pot with a suited ace plays pretty well post flop.

I'd probably call the river.

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02-04-2014 , 05:56 PM
I think the flop bet is mandatory. I expect the others to fold most of the time.
I do not expect to be able to check this down profitably and win with a pair of fives very often.

Once the PFR calls I put him on stubborn Ax or a pocket pair that he doesn't know how to vbet OTF. And mostly I would put him on those PP and I prefer a turn bet.
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02-05-2014 , 12:57 AM
I guess we can take either way, calling or raising, it depends also on the blinds. If they 3B a lot then it will be better to raise instead of calling. I also see that everybody or at least most of you said call river. I really thought he could have a higher A, but maybe I was wrong and he was just betting a mid pair or something like that.
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02-05-2014 , 03:27 AM
Flop is a clear xb
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02-05-2014 , 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Deeepz
Flop is a clear xb
Please elaborate. I disagree strongly.
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02-05-2014 , 05:31 AM
Call the river after you check the turn.
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02-05-2014 , 05:35 AM
Yeah think picking up the pot on the flop with A high is better than checking. I would of squeezed pre tho too. Then bet the flop. Then still checked the turn and still called vs a half pot bet.
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02-05-2014 , 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by EC2200
Yeah think picking up the pot on the flop with A high is better than checking. I would of squeezed pre tho too. Then bet the flop. Then still checked the turn and still called vs a half pot bet.
You don't have A high on the flop.

Though multiway being good on river is unlikely so treating the hand as a bluff isn't that bad idea anyway and you could get call from AK/AQ so there's marginal value bet potential as well.
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02-05-2014 , 06:07 AM
4way with very little equity vs their ranges and not much barrell cards with a bit sdv and position with almost no value in betting
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02-05-2014 , 06:10 AM
And not much of a way to realize our equity. So basically only reason to check back is to look folding short of 5 popping up.
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02-05-2014 , 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tneva82
You don't have A high on the flop.
Yeah somewhere in between reading and typing I forgot we had a pair. Which I would still bet. Still think the hand as played is good until he folds to a half pot bet on the river.
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