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11-16-2013 , 12:09 AM
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reads: Villian been limping alot, col calling raise.
doesnt like to fold to cbets etc. dont really wanna talk about pre

does every1 like my turn line, and then followed by my river line, im obv trying to push him off a probbale chop?



    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20801551

    MP: $42.80 (171.2 bb)
    CO: $17.12 (68.5 bb)
    BTN: $25.94 (103.8 bb)
    SB: $19.97 (79.9 bb)
    Hero (BB): $34.47 (137.9 bb)
    UTG: $26.85 (107.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A 4
    UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.60) T K J (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP checks

    Turn: ($0.60) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.95, MP raises to $1.90, Hero raises to $7.09, MP calls $5.19

    River: ($14.78) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $27.13 and is all-in, MP folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $14.78 pot ($0.67 rake)
    Final Board: T K J Q J
    MP mucked and lost (-$7.34 net)
    Hero mucked A 4 and won $14.11 ($6.77 net)



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    11-16-2013 , 12:13 AM
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    Forgot to mention i had taken the option to check some hands in bb that i would usually raise with 1 limper to me, and im sure villian had observed that.
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    11-16-2013 , 04:19 AM
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    Meh, only problem is you have no big pairs in your range so you're either getting a call from a hand that beats you or chopping but paying more rake to do so

    Fish aren't folding a straight on the river here ever
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    11-16-2013 , 04:36 AM
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    villain as described is not folding Ax and probably jamming turn with it or something, so your jam is pretty terrible as he also has boats to call you with.
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    11-16-2013 , 04:52 AM
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    check/call river
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    11-16-2013 , 05:19 AM
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    Quote:
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    check/call river
    This.
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    11-16-2013 , 06:38 AM
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    11-16-2013 , 06:48 AM
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    You do realize that fish don't think right ?
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    11-16-2013 , 06:51 AM
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    ok seems c/c river is best option, appreciate feed back, just thought it was a cool spot to overbet jam in a limped pot lol

    i know i dont have any big pairs as such in my range, but villian had limped and i had checked bb with sum boardway off suit holdings so im sure he is aware i was playing fairly un orthadox in limped pots hu with him.

    at showdowns in limped pots he turned up with holdings like q3s a6o j6o etc
    with slight history i really actually thought i could rep a boat better on the river than him, but that is inconsistent with my turn line i guess as im never overbet leading/3betting the turn with two pair i guess

    in conclusion he prob didnt have the ace, and i have no clue what he really could hacve
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    11-16-2013 , 06:59 AM
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    ok seems c/c river is best option, appreciate feed back, just thought it was a cool spot to overbet jam in a limped pot lol

    i know i dont have any big pairs as such in my range, but villian had limped and i had checked bb with sum boardway off suit holdings so im sure he is aware i was playing fairly un orthadox in limped pots hu with him.

    at showdowns in limped pots he turned up with holdings like q3s a6o j6o etc
    with slight history i really actually thought i could rep a boat better on the river than him, but that is inconsistent with my turn line i guess as im never overbet leading/3betting the turn with two pair i guess

    in conclusion he prob didnt have the ace, and i have no clue what he really could hacve
    you're thinking a level to far to play effectively against fish.
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    11-16-2013 , 07:06 AM
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    you're thinking a level to far to play effectively against fish.
    ok thanks for feedback

    i take it u mean play abc, solid poker- value town them etc
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    11-16-2013 , 07:10 AM
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    No, i mean that fish aren't really thinking about what you rep and if they do their logic will be very different from yours, they just look at their hand for the most part.
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    11-16-2013 , 07:29 AM
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    No, i mean that fish aren't really thinking about what you rep and if they do their logic will be very different from yours, they just look at their hand for the most part.
    yes i understand and i fully agree with your above post. thanks

    and i believe after turn action c/c is the most superior river line.
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    11-16-2013 , 08:12 AM
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    Think I like a gaybet more btw to get value from worse (9x).
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