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01-02-2013 , 04:25 PM
Had this hand, and wanted to know if I played correctly.

Villain was 24/14/.7 3-bet: 0

Had 83 hands on him. I have more stats, let me know if you want them.

I think the donkbet often are draws, but I could be mistaken.

All comments greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

    Party, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15218801

    Hero (CO): $14.24 (142.4 bb)
    BB: $7.60 (76 bb)
    SB: $19.05 (190.5 bb)
    BTN: $9.57 (95.7 bb)
    MP: $8.41 (84.1 bb)
    UTG: $10 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

    Flop: ($1) 8 5 J (3 players)
    SB bets $0.71, Hero raises to $2.05, BTN folds, SB calls $1.34

    Turn: ($5.10) Q (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($5.10) J (2 players)
    SB bets $4.85, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $5.10 pot ($0.25 rake)
    Final Board: 8 5 J Q J
    Hero mucked K K and lost (-$2.35 net)
    SB mucked and won $4.85 ($2.50 net)



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    KK on wet turn Quote
    01-02-2013 , 04:32 PM
    I would b/f turn and check back river.

    Also, you could probably raise bigger on the flop.
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    01-02-2013 , 04:42 PM
    Barrel the turn again. There aren't many draws that have got there yet and they'll call with draws and some pairs. Also you'll probably get checked to on the river if you decide the board is too dangerous to bet again you can take a cheap showdown.

    If you do get raised on the turn you should just fold unless you've seen the villain bet without a strong made hand before.
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    01-02-2013 , 04:45 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Syfer
    Barrel the turn again. There aren't many draws that have got there yet and they'll call with draws and some pairs you'll probably get checked to on the river if you decide the board is too dangerous to bet again.

    If you do get raised on the turn you should just fold unless you've seen the villain bet without a strong made hand before.
    Umm...T9 for most obvious straight draw got there as got the most obvious draw of 'em all, flush draw. How exactly That's about the most draw filling turn card there could be...Only draws that didn't hit was the 2nd OESD(76), trip draws and most of 2-pair draws.

    BTW for OP question. What would you have done on flop if he came over the top?
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    01-02-2013 , 04:57 PM
    IMO you played it fine. Would love to hear other opinions.
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    01-02-2013 , 05:06 PM
    well played imo, could raise more on flop though
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    01-02-2013 , 05:32 PM
    Definitely like the idea of raising more on the flop. Something like $2.50. After the word turn card comes, I think you played it fine.
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    01-02-2013 , 05:48 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tneva82
    Umm...T9 for most obvious straight draw got there as got the most obvious draw of 'em all, flush draw. How exactly That's about the most draw filling turn card there could be...Only draws that didn't hit was the 2nd OESD(76), trip draws and most of 2-pair draws.

    BTW for OP question. What would you have done on flop if he came over the top?
    I managed to misread this hand and think the turn brought a 2nd heart. Whoops.

    In that case I think this was played fine. I don't know how many hands you have on the villain but if its more than 50 or so you can be almost certain that he'll never be bluffing with 0.7 agg.
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    01-02-2013 , 06:09 PM
    He's most likely to have some kind of draw / combo draw maybe. Possibly a set and he wants to build a big pot since the board is so drawy. Raising flop bigger is a option, but I dont think betting turn is necessary rly.
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    01-04-2013 , 06:08 AM
    Thanks for all the comments. Very insightfull.

    I got an additional question: if the aggr. factor of villain would be higher. Would that lead to different lines? Would that make the line b/f turn, check behind river a better option? And how much would you bet such a turn in that case?

    Thanks again.
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    01-04-2013 , 07:51 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tneva82
    Umm...T9 for most obvious straight draw got there as got the most obvious draw of 'em all, flush draw. How exactly That's about the most draw filling turn card there could be...Only draws that didn't hit was the 2nd OESD(76), trip draws and most of 2-pair draws.

    BTW for OP question. What would you have done on flop if he came over the top?
    +1
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    01-04-2013 , 08:20 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by writerontilt
    Thanks for all the comments. Very insightfull.

    I got an additional question: if the aggr. factor of villain would be higher. Would that lead to different lines? Would that make the line b/f turn, check behind river a better option? And how much would you bet such a turn in that case?

    Thanks again.
    I would think lower aggression would make b/f turn more appealing. Higher aggression=more likely he'll be bluffing you there so not only you would be folding more often but also your folds would be incorrect one more frequently.

    Passive villain meanwhile would raise you only with more nutted range so if he raises you should have easier time to fold.
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