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06-10-2008 , 11:04 PM

tercet

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Hes 90/5 through first 25 hands...

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

CO: $28.30
BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $42.15
BB: $14.60
UTG: $26.85

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with K

UTG raises to $1.25, CO calls $1.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($10.50) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($10.50) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $7, Hero folds

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06-10-2008 , 11:07 PM

Kgore

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nice level.

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06-10-2008 , 11:18 PM

tercet

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Originally Posted by Kgore

nice level.

Go back to lurking please

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06-11-2008 , 12:18 AM

Bigheadarch1

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c bet the flop

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06-11-2008 , 12:42 AM

mocky

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Yeah id have to c bet this flop if not im calling his turn bet,his range is so wide here im not gonna credit him for having the A.

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06-11-2008 , 12:51 AM

JediMethod

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Originally Posted by mocky

Yeah id have to c bet this flop if not im calling his turn bet,his range is so wide here im not gonna credit him for having the A.

How is his range so wide? he's 90/5 over 25 hands so he's only raised once while at the table with hero. This type of player's range is heavily weighted towards big aces and big pairs imo. He's probably going to felt JJ+ but he's also felting AT+.

I hate cbetting in this situation because they never fold and you dont know where you stand which is why I'm going to go and advocate 3bet shoving preflop. You'd be surprised at the wide range an uber fish will call you with. You know he has something, and he'll probably stack off with AJ+ and 99+ if he's really as fishy as his stats imply.

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06-11-2008 , 01:28 AM

saymond

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Bet the turn, for value. That was weak tight as hell.

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06-11-2008 , 01:38 AM

mburke05

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i 3bet to like 5.50 here with a call.

as played i bet/fold the turn for sure, and definitely cbet that flop, his hand is basically face up that way.

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06-11-2008 , 01:40 AM

Fancy Pants

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Yeah, I would bet/fold the flop, even vs. this player.

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Originally Posted by JediMethod

I hate cbetting in this situation because they never fold and you dont know where you stand which is why I'm going to go and advocate 3bet shoving preflop.

I think if we do this he's folding a huge part of his likely PFR range, which may be wider than stats indicate.

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06-11-2008 , 01:44 AM

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DaSilva

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Since we don't know how he plays postflop, not cbetting this flop is fine. After he checks however, im allways betting that turn, probably folding to a raise, he can have so many hands that bets that flop when checked too

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06-11-2008 , 02:24 AM

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Thrahl

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I would have prob bet the flop. If I did check the flop I would have lead the turn.

If your going to play it this way you pretty much have to call turn and river vs a 90vpip drooler. His range is way too wide to put him squarely on an Ace after you checked it to him twice.

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06-11-2008 , 02:28 AM

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_Koby_

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you played you hand real weak there, why u putted the villain on AX? his range is so mutch bigger. you need to cbet the flop to take him of 9T tipe of hands.
As played i would call the turn and fold the river to anoter psb.

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06-11-2008 , 11:41 AM

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mocky

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How is a 90/5's range heavily weighted to big aces and big pairs?

Your giving this guy waaaay to much credit over 25 hands, yeah his raising range is 5% and if he ran something like 40/5 or 30/5 you could begin to narrow his range somewhat but hes 90% vpip so hes played almost every hand since hero sat down.
Just because a he decides to raise one time in 25 does not mean hes holding JJ+.

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