Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $11.19 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 9, AF: 2.1, Hands: 333
MP: $10.76 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 3.8, Hands: 13635
CO: $7.51 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 7, 3B: 2, AF: 2.8, Hands: 397
BTN: $11.36 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AF: 3.4, Hands: 360
Hero (SB): $12.05 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 2.7, Hands: 20333
BB: $8.81 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 7, 3B: 3, AF: 2.2, Hands: 7754

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K K
UTG raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.30) 2 4 A (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($2.30) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, UTG calls $1.10

River: ($4.50) J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.15, Hero folds

is ok how i played

Bet the flop. You have more Ax than him, we're flipping our hand face up really when we check this flop (do you check Ax here?)

River is a fold yes

why bet flop ? if he raisese i am happy ? what my bet acomplish? i dont wnat to transform my hnd into a bluff .

Yes if he raise you, you are pretty happy bc you can fold, but I doubt he will do it. Imo this is a spot for triple-barrel (not quite sure about that jack but still I barrel probably)

+1 for bet the flop.

This is not the right way to approach these spots. You should only look at your range rather than your hand when you are trying to bluff villain. Why would we want to bluff here?

And yes I would definitely check some AK and AA here sometimes. Especially AKd, and especially against a barrel happy villain.
x/c once or twice with KK is ok here as it's unlikely we're ever getting villain off AQ+ and it's unlikely we beat anything else he can call us with.

that s i talking about ...

Yes and even AA.


Flop is a pretty standart check, I might check turn again even, I'd expect him to bet all his flush draws at latest on the turn anyway, if someone wories about protection or whatever.



Tripple barreling sounds like a weird idea, Villan can have a lot of nuts still. Just don't see why we would really want to do this.


And that when can easily fold our hand when he raises is just no argument at all. We have decent showdown value and btw I wouldn't expect to get raised here all that often, many regs won't raise in that spot ever (and I think rightly so).

So what you do is you bet, make Villans range so strong that it beats you, and then x/f basicly every turn.

My bad, it is right to bet the flop, but the turn is v dependant

To clarify - I was asking whether Hero checks his Ax hands ever here. If not then we're announcing our hand (within a pretty narrow range) by checking - we're not very balanced at all. Is that not something we should be factoring in here? V doesn't seem great based on stats but he doesn't seem entirely incompetent either...

Doubt he's ever folding any Ax he has so surely we're better off just betting flop and c/fing after that (since we can be pretty certain that he has us beat after calling flop and is v. unlikely to turn his TT-QQ hands into bluffs after flatting otf) rather than giving V a free card/allowing him the opportunity to barrel us off etc?

Well, at 10nl being balanced is not a big requirement yet, although if hero is afraid of that, then he can protect his checking range with some nutted hands.

I'm not really sure that you understand that betting flop doesn't accomplish much. In a way ahead/way behind spot like this one, the motto "betting to get called by worse or to make villain fold better" applies extremely well.
We are not too afraid of giving villain a free card as most hands that are behind us are drawing pretty thin, especially since we have a blocker (and a nice redraw) to diamond draws.
But yes, we are giving villain an opportunity to barrel us off our hand. That's one of the main idea behind checking: inducing bluffs. We're not getting value from anything else now. However, checking will also allow us to barrel some turns and rivers when villain checks behind, and then we can get a bit of value from hands like TT-QQ.

That reasoning.. really I love it.

But when we check this flop to induce and he bets turn and/or river what's our plan? Do we x/c turn planning to x/c river or x/c turn and fold river? Do we lead turn? He's likely calling at least once with TT-QQ so does it matter when we bet?
I'm not saying that you're wrong or that I'm right I'm just failing to understand the difference. Good spot for me to learn something here

The reasoning was actually elaborated on following the part that you quoted... I hope that made you feel good though

Why are we betting flop if he never folds Ax? For value? If you want value from lower pairs you can easily get it on later streets.


And I don't think we have >50% vs his calling range on the flop. And even if, that doesnt make it a bet.

I'm not arguing that we should necessarily bet the flop, I getcha on that. What I'm saying is I don't understand the difference between betting flop and betting later on. The only difference (as I see it) is that he's probably more likely to barrel off his worse hands if we check the flop... but doesn't that just make the situation less favourable for us? Are we going to be calling down here on blank turns and rivers? Are we going to lead turn? (Not rhetorical, genuinely unsure)

because if we dont bet tp here , vilian may feel comfortable with jj tt for exemple and calling ott thinking that if we have an A will bet the flop.make sense ? if we bet all the ax are calling , if we x may induce him to make mistakes later on the hand

As a standard I'd usually x/c two barrels. But this guy seems tight enough to make me want to fold to a 2nd barrel. It highly depends on his fold to 3bet and postflop AF stats however.

And I doubt he's calling a barrel with TT-JJ. Maybe QQ but that's the only likely hand we'd get some value from (remember that hero did 3bet a UTG open, TT doesn't beat much on an A high flop). We'll be more likely to get value from it on later streets though. You asked why. Well, this is because TT-QQ will be more likely to call if we don't rep an A.

Obviously, keep in mind that there are always some adjustments to make depending on villain. If you know that villain will call two barrels with some pps, then sure you may as well barrel yourself. This is not a standard line though.

Out of interest, what should our betting range look like as PFR on Axx in a 3bet pot? If we assume KK 4bets pre and QQ is only calling one street post, then what should we be betting otf?

(fwiw i'm firmly in the check flop camp for OP's hand).

If we want a betting range on an Axx board in these positions shouldn't KK be in it as it has by far the most blockers to the top of his range?

Tbh I don't think we necessarily need to have a betting range here as our range already is fairly narrow and we don't have any hands w/o SD value beside maybe KQs.

I see the argument for not betting AA. Hero has crushed the board so there isn't much he can get value from.

What do you think a decent value betting range is? I was thinking AK, A2s and A4s as there's plenty of worse Ax hands to get value from.

Fold to 3bet stat would be useful...

As we have just 3bet a UTG open it's probably not necessary to have a cbet range although I'd definitely cbet a good amount of AK as a standard as many villains at the micros will call with AQ.

I misread the HH.

I wouldn't 3bet A2s and A4s Vs an UTG open