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11-05-2009 , 08:40 PM

ShrKJumpiNTaGr

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 178

$0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

UTG: $20.71
CO: $20.91
BTN: $17.46
SB: $25.22
Hero (BB): $20.00

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with K

2 folds, BTN calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.30) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $1, BTN calls $1

Turn: ($3.30) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN raises to $5, Hero calls $3

River: ($13.30) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9, Hero folds

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11-05-2009 , 08:43 PM

mygibbs

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,268

Don't call the turn if you're not calling a brick river.

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11-05-2009 , 08:50 PM

Freewill2112

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Bump it up a little more preflop. Good rule of thumb is 3x + 1 for each limper. I sometimes throw in an extra BB for being OOP.

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Originally Posted by mygibbs

Don't call the turn if you're not calling a brick river.

Is this absolutely always the case? I've seen plenty of hands where villain semi-bluffs the turn, and loses heart on the river. Or is it just because we're OOP here?

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11-05-2009 , 08:59 PM

ShrKJumpiNTaGr

centurion

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Originally Posted by Freewill1978

Bump it up a little more preflop. Good rule of thumb is 3x + 1 for each limper. I sometimes throw in an extra BB for being OOP.

Is this absolutely always the case? I've seen plenty of hands where villain semi-bluffs the turn, and loses heart on the river. Or is it just because we're OOP here?

This is my main dilemma. I'm calling the turn hoping for a smallish riv bet to call down. And giving credit for a big hand if opponent bets big.

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11-05-2009 , 09:22 PM

BluffsAllDay

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 412

tough spot, id say he probably shows up with a two pair type hand or a set

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11-05-2009 , 09:59 PM

MJK08

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 271

I'd bet more on turn
Its make a bluff raise more expensive and the decission becomes easier.
As played i fold river too.

Anyone like a block bet of about 3$ on river? since we have some blocker to the nut strait.

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11-05-2009 , 10:09 PM

sviridenich

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,103

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Originally Posted by Freewill1978

Is this absolutely always the case? I've seen plenty of hands where villain semi-bluffs the turn, and loses heart on the river. Or is it just because we're OOP here?

the fact that we play it out of position is very important here.
If villain has big made hand, he's betting river anyway.
If villain has busted draw , he's betting river too, because we've showed weakennss twice in hand, first when we flat turn and second when we check river to him.

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11-05-2009 , 10:28 PM

ShrKJumpiNTaGr

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Originally Posted by MJK08

I like betting more on the turn - good point. How much more would you bet?

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11-05-2009 , 10:38 PM

MJK08

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 271

2.75 or 3 since the board is getting a bit coordinated.
If raised after that bet i fold right there.

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