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04-05-2012 , 09:29 AM
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Villian is running 26/18/7.4/2.7 over 400 hands
Ft3b:100%
cbet: 52%(flop), 72%(turn)
Fold to cb raise: 67%(small sample set)
wtsd%:29%
w$wsf:46%
w$wsd:56%

Reads: Not many. Haven't seen him get too out of line and is pretty straight forward.

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12469702

MP: $9.75 (97.5 bb)
CO: $14.62 (146.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $11.10 (111 bb)
SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $13.44 (134.4 bb)
UTG: $11.50 (115 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.36, Hero calls $0.36, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.87) 4 7 3 (2 players)
CO bets $0.73, Hero raises to $2.20, CO calls $1.47

Turn: ($5.27) 5 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $3.50, CO raises to $7, Hero....
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04-05-2012 , 09:36 AM
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why didnt u 3b preflop ?

as played fold turn, u re beating nothing
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04-05-2012 , 09:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbleBobble
why didnt u 3b preflop ?
Ft3b:100%
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04-05-2012 , 09:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nirwanda
Ft3b:100%
exactly... while it would have been +EV to 3bet I thought it was even more +EV to just flat here and play post with position.
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04-05-2012 , 09:47 AM
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I knew I was running the risk of having a multiway pot, which would have sucked. But also thought there was a chance to be squeezed by someone in the blinds, which would have been great. I thought a 3bet would of just killed the hand right there.
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04-05-2012 , 09:55 AM
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if this guy is a reg who you will be seeing alot, just 3bet and if he is always folding then start 3betting him really wide until he adjusts and if he doesnt you print money, I dont like getting too fancy here in the micros with big pairs, its just not nessacary, as played you have to fold, his bet looks like pure value min raise where is he had some kind of good draw he would have just jammed here, or at least thats how Id view it until I see him prove otherwise.
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04-05-2012 , 09:57 AM
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You just set yourself up for horrible spots wit hthese betsizes. I d cb turn as played, bet makes 0 sense :/
Also just 3bet specially vs 100% 3b u wont make much more with kings in every hand in the long run anyways.. And start just 3 betting any two vs that guy if he really folds ALL the time..
Last edited by TheDna; 04-05-2012 at 10:02 AM.
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04-05-2012 , 10:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShipItCrucial
exactly... while it would have been +EV to 3bet I thought it was even more +EV to just flat here and play post with position.
How many samples of Ft3B have you got on him?

Since he has made a 3.6x open, Id be inclined to give him credit/hope that he has himself a hand - Just 3B pre.
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04-13-2012 , 06:36 PM
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OP, I like your thought process through the flop, but I think you should've checked through the turn. Your bet is too thin for value.
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04-13-2012 , 07:26 PM
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You should be absolutely hammering this guy in btn vs co spots until his fold to 3-bet is no longer 100%! I'm still 3-betting this pre btw, and fold now as played
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04-13-2012 , 09:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LazloStPierre
You should be absolutely hammering this guy in btn vs co spots until his fold to 3-bet is no longer 100%! I'm still 3-betting this pre btw, and fold now as played
This and this again
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04-13-2012 , 09:22 PM
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Sample size on ft3b is obviously important but we can assume he has been 3b a few times in 400 hands. Plus he is opening from the CO, it's not like this is an UTG raise, I certainly don't see the problem with flatting here.
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