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KK in big pot on the flop against a nit. Can I fold here? KK in big pot on the flop against a nit. Can I fold here?

09-01-2009 , 05:20 PM
25nl full ring at Full Tilt I have KK from early get reraised pf by a passive nit. I am not willing to fold KK pf at 25nl except against an extreme nit in the perfect situation. This is one of those players. I am playing a standard 17/14/3 game.

Effective stack size is $25 for the entire table.

Hero dealt KK
UTG: limp
Hero $28.71: raises to $1
Fold
Fold
Villian: raises to $3.75
Fold
Button: Fold
SB: Fold
BB: Fold
UTG: Fold

3 bets are very rare and usually taking down the pot. The villian vpip is 4 and hasn't raised any street in 30 hands. Does anyone fold here against even the tightest nit? I want to do more then the miniraise, considered just shoving but thought I MIGHT be able to get away from it if the Villian makes the right size 4th raise against me but I am still calling a shove.

Hero: makes it $7 to go
Villian calls

Pot: $14.60

9 J Q

Hero: ??? I put the villian AA with very little possibility of KK QQ and AK. Does anyone think the range is larger?

Do I make a bet and fold to any raise? do I c/f? or do I shove? is c/r even an option? Whatever I do I'll feel like a donkey.
KK in big pot on the flop against a nit. Can I fold here? Quote
09-01-2009 , 05:22 PM
You should have raised more preflop. As played stack sizes are akward on the flop, but I'd have a hard time folding here. Did villain check or bet the flop, it appears you are ip...
KK in big pot on the flop against a nit. Can I fold here? Quote
09-01-2009 , 05:28 PM
4b 11,50 preflop, shove on non ace board

as played i would bet/fold, you cant beat anything here except AQ or AKs.. incase your ip, i would just fold against a decent bet.
KK in big pot on the flop against a nit. Can I fold here? Quote
09-02-2009 , 04:50 AM
I am oop, had my raise 3 bet and I re-raised. After the flop I shoved.
KK in big pot on the flop against a nit. Can I fold here? Quote
09-02-2009 , 05:07 AM
I think you need to raise more preflop like everyone already said....

as played i check fold this, the only hand he has that you beat is AK, your losing to all of the upper pocket pairs and even AK has a bunch of draws against you. Yes this is a weak line, but it was a weak 4b so I would just follow it up w/ more weakness =D
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09-02-2009 , 07:49 AM
Nits hate folding QQ+/AK, so I just 4bet standard size and get it in pre. As played, your 4bet actually looks super strong, so he would surely 5bet AA here?

We can figure his range for calling such a small 4bet to be most of his 3bet range, so QQ+/AK, maybe JJ.

Scratch that, this guy is a nit over 30 hands? Bleurgh, hand sample is so small, pleeeeeeeease don't think he has to have AA when he 3bets
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