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09-12-2018 , 06:27 AM
In my opinion villain does have aces a lot in this spot here. Villain does not need to bet turn, pot is big enough for river shove and if hes holding AcAx he doesnt need to be worried about flushes. Your opinion? Tnx


PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $7.43
SB: $6.56 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: $5.40 (VPIP: 28.21, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 41)
UTG: $6.77 (VPIP: 19.50, PFR: 16.35, 3Bet Preflop: 12.07, Hands: 162)
MP: $15.76 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: $5.19 (VPIP: 19.00, PFR: 14.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 104)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K K

fold, MP raises to $0.12, fold, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, fold, MP raises to $1.42, Hero calls $0.97

Flop: ($2.91, 2 players) 5 4 3
MP bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75

Turn: ($4.41, 2 players) 8
MP checks, Hero bets $1.67, MP calls $1.67

River: ($7.75, 2 players) 5
MP bets $8.40, fold,
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09-12-2018 , 07:54 AM
Get it in pre flop.

X/r flop as played.

Jam turn as played.
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09-12-2018 , 07:57 AM
What are you doing if he check raises turn? What are you doing if he calls and checks river? If you're genuinely not comfortable to play for stacks here may as well check back turn.

Raise flop as with the gutshot it's a board Ax is going to just shove alot and all pairs are still overpairs.
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09-12-2018 , 11:30 AM
If you listed out your range for 3b/calling (which should be a very narrow range), isn't KK the best hand you have in this spot? I'm calling the river for sure.
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09-12-2018 , 01:02 PM
why are you folding this river? The way you are thinking you should just fold this hand preflop to his 4bet.

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09-12-2018 , 01:05 PM
Call river. Wp before that.
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09-12-2018 , 08:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker_Player
Get it in pre flop.

X/r flop as played.

Jam turn as played.
Agee with getting it in pre

Raising flop or turn is terrible
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09-12-2018 , 08:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saysonz1
Agee with getting it in pre

Raising flop or turn is terrible
Why is raise flop terrible?
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09-12-2018 , 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renekton
Why is raise flop terrible?
Villains range is 99+/AQ+ most likely. We get a lot of value from hands we beat by flatting and lose a lot by raising.

We aren't really scared of any cards making any type of draw (apart from 2) so just call down.

Ace is only card we don't like as it is both action killer and in his range (although we block AK).

Occasionally we run into aa or a random hand that beats us but thats fine
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09-12-2018 , 08:36 PM
In other words, imagine your Villain with JJ here.

What do you do differently vs a flop/turn call vs raise?

Raising allows him to play perfectly and fold a lot he's behind with and call or jam what's he's ahead with

Last edited by Saysonz1; 09-12-2018 at 08:43 PM.
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09-12-2018 , 09:30 PM
Is it worth having a raising range vs his small flop bet?
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