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02-12-2015 , 08:19 PM
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v 19/14/9.3 AF over 144 hands.

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $4.71 (94.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $12.39 (247.8 bb)
    UTG: $5.79 (115.8 bb)
    MP: $7.18 (143.6 bb)
    CO: $6.34 (126.8 bb)
    BTN: $8.91 (178.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J K
    2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.32) K T 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($0.32) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

    River: ($0.72) 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, CO raises to $3.75, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $3.72 pot ($0.15 rake)
    Final Board: K T 2 A 5
    Hero mucked J K and lost (-$1.85 net)
    CO mucked and won $3.57 ($1.72 net)
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    02-12-2015 , 08:24 PM
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    I'm not completely in love with the preflop call against such a nit. Probably prefer 3bet/bluffing over calling.

    As played, I'm just calling the river 3bet. We block AKdd and AJdd, and ATdd isn't possible. It's possible he opened A3dd or something like that, but those should be cbetting the flop. I'm never folding though.
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    02-12-2015 , 08:26 PM
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    wow. I can't fold this easy. Against this kind of player at this stake I believe it's ok to fold

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    02-12-2015 , 09:08 PM
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    9.3 AF equals a snap call. I'd call even vs most normal AF's just more reluctantly.
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    02-12-2015 , 09:18 PM
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    Bad fold IMO. Villain bets the NFD on the flop almost always here IMO.
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    02-12-2015 , 09:21 PM
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    terrible
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    02-13-2015 , 02:38 AM
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    This spot is gross, especially vs. a tighter player. As ever, I expect a lot of uNl villains to be capable of V-betting worse, plus vs. better players if we fold here then it is pretty exploitable to a dry ace bluff. However, I expect very few micro players to attempt this, and his non AI 3-bet looks veeery nuttish, so I guess a fold isn't the worst thing in the world, but you pretty much have to call here, even though we are beaten some % of the time.
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    02-13-2015 , 02:51 AM
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    Wow, and I thought I was a nit...
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    02-13-2015 , 02:57 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dakk453
    Wow, and I thought I was a nit...
    Yeah it's always a call, but villain's range is fairly nutted when he 3bets river, just nowhere near enough to fold.
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    02-13-2015 , 06:06 AM
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    Don't start making up reasons to make huge folds. You have 2nd nuts. You do not fold 2nd nuts. If you were like 300bb deep against this particular guy, I could maaaaaaaybe understand, but you're not. Just get it in man and if you're beat accept it as a part of poker. You will lose far more money making folds like this than facing inevitable cold decks I promise.
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    02-13-2015 , 06:28 AM
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    Anyone betting turn?
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    02-13-2015 , 07:09 AM
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    3bet pre?
    As played just c/c turn is fine, but never folding river, just call his 3Bet
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    02-13-2015 , 07:15 AM
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    Yea i played it pretty lol terrible in hindsight. I realize it was an exploit fold. My "instinct" was that the player pool rarely 3-bet my polarized range in that spot with anything worse than my hand. But with 9 AF that I didnt notice, its a snap.

    Btw all in or call? don't think he is folding any worse flush.
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    02-13-2015 , 08:07 AM
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    Don't give so much importance to AF, it just means this guy doesn't like calling, not that he's aggressive.

    River is close between calling and AI and calling is probably slightly better.
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    02-13-2015 , 08:18 AM
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    Never folding either pre or post river
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    02-13-2015 , 08:42 AM
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    snapcall
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    02-13-2015 , 09:48 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ohsnapzbrah
    I'm not completely in love with the preflop call against such a nit. Probably prefer 3bet/bluffing over calling.
    lol? 3betting might be better than calling, I will give you that..

    flop & turn wp, river I would x/r a bit bigger and then am undecided whether or not to ship or flat
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