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05-15-2012 , 06:37 AM

burgermeister

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Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12872142

Hero (SB): $4 (100 bb)
BB: $2.34 (58.5 bb)
UTG+2: $4.58 (114.5 bb)
MP1: $4 (100 bb)
MP2: $5.11 (127.8 bb)
MP3: $3.38 (84.5 bb)
CO: $4.66 (116.5 bb)
BTN: $8.82 (220.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.14, 4 folds

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No reliable stats on any villains. I was very uncomfortable as I was OPP and folded all 3 times. I'm looking for advice on how to play these hands more optimally.

Last edited by burgermeister; 05-15-2012 at 06:44 AM.

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05-15-2012 , 06:38 AM

burgermeister

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 137

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Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12872152

BB: $2.12 (53 bb)
Hero (UTG+1): $4.08 (102 bb)
UTG+2: $3.82 (95.5 bb)
MP1: $4.56 (114 bb)
MP2: $3.16 (79 bb)
MP3: $2.85 (71.3 bb)
CO: $2.74 (68.5 bb)
BTN: $4.38 (109.5 bb)
SB: $2.48 (62 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A

Hero raises to $0.12, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.12, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.40, 4 folds

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05-15-2012 , 06:46 AM

PokerRon247

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No-one can give any kind of answers unless you provide some kind of reads/stats on opponents. This applies to any time you post a hand. All of these hands play differently when playing against different opponents.

Also, you'll get better responses limiting it to one hand per thread.

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05-15-2012 , 06:57 AM

MartL

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In a vacuum and readless, Hand 1 i would flat pre. Hand 2 i would fold to the 3bet as we are in EP so the BTN should have a strong range and we still have to worry about a player after us. Hand 3 i would flat as the BTN looks like a fish but depending on villains you could 3bet for value and maybe try and iso the fish.

As PokerRon says though its hard to know with out any reads.

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05-15-2012 , 06:59 AM

burgermeister

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Over a small sample both villains were shaping up to be loose/passive, that's really all I can offer.

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05-15-2012 , 07:20 AM

gm_matthew

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Hand 1 - if you don't feel comfortable here, folding is fine. Against most typical MP3 opening ranges, AQs is at best marginally ahead, which is offset by being out of position. One could make a case for calling or 3-betting, but only if you're confident in your post-flop play and I presume you're not.

Hand 2 - opening with AQs is standard, but against a 3-bet you should usually fold. Barring bluffs, 3-bets tend to represent AA-QQ and AK, all of which have you dominated. Without any reads on the villain, fold.

Hand 3 - appears to be missing.

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05-15-2012 , 07:21 AM

burgermeister

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I deleted one hand to simplify the thread. I was 3 bet by the button similar to hand 2.

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05-15-2012 , 12:51 PM

danimaldan

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aq sucks oop in 3b pots. i hate these spots.

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05-15-2012 , 04:45 PM

DDAWD

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Originally Posted by danimaldan

aq sucks oop in 3b pots. i hate these spots.

AQ is fine OOP in 3bet pots. It's better than being OOP in a single raised pot. The problem is that AQ sucks in any pot versus the likely range that is 3betting a UTG+1 range from the button. Just fold

And you simply cannot fold preflop in hand 1. AQ is much too strong against the opponent's opening range.

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