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01-14-2020 , 06:42 PM
I'm pretty sure in hindsight i made a bad decision on the Turn but would like to hear your toughts guys.
It's extremely possible one of the oponents has my outs so the call is not profitable on the long run correct?

    PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

    BTN: $4.20 (210 bb)
    SB: $2.86 (143 bb)
    BB: $4.42 (221 bb)
    UTG: $2.94 (147 bb)
    UTG+1: $1.58 (79 bb)
    MP: $0.93 (46.5 bb)
    MP+1: $1.75 (87.5 bb)
    Hero (MP+2): $3.20 (160 bb)
    CO: $2.31 (115.5 bb)

    SB posts $0.01, BB posts $0.02

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has J J
    UTG raises to $0.06, fold, MP calls $0.06, fold, Hero calls $0.06, 3 folds, BB calls $0.04

    Flop: ($0.25, 4 players) A J Q
    BB bets $0.12, UTG calls $0.12, MP raises to $0.87 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.87, BB calls $0.75, fold

    Turn: ($2.98, 3 players) K
    BB bets $3.49 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.27 and is all-in

    River: ($7.52, 3 players) Q

    Results: $7.52 pot ($0.26 rake)
    Final Board: A J Q K Q

    BB shows T K: (Straight, Ace High)
    Main Pot: [$2.98]: (Pre 29%, Flop 66%, Turn 50%)
    Side Pot: [$4.54]: (Pre 33%, Flop 70%, Turn 79%)

    Hero shows J J: (Full House, Jacks full of Queens)
    Main Pot: [$2.98]: (Pre 56%, Flop 30%, Turn 21%)
    Side Pot: [$4.54]: (Pre 67%, Flop 30%, Turn 21%)

    MP shows T 9: (Straight, Ace High)
    Main Pot: [$2.98]: (Pre 15%, Flop 4%, Turn 29%)

    Hero wins $7.26
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    01-15-2020 , 08:02 AM
    sq pre always
    esp now that a broken stack is involved

    turn is gross, prob still wouldn't fold at 2nl where everybody's clicking buttons
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    01-15-2020 , 12:49 PM
    Why would BB not rejam the flop? Weird
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    01-18-2020 , 11:02 AM
    What ranges do you put them on? What reads do you have? You have to try and put people on ranges preflop and narrow it down as the hand continues , we don’t know what you were thinking during the hand.
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    01-18-2020 , 12:04 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ionutd
    sq pre always
    esp now that a broken stack is involved

    turn is gross, prob still wouldn't fold at 2nl where everybody's clicking buttons
    Saying things like this I assume your at 2NL or not much higher, too lazy to think so lets chalk it up to everybody in the player pool is clicking buttons so I wouldn't fold. The turn is terrible for you and BB shoves, This is a pretty clear fold. If we put people on ranges like how we should we would have to discount some of our outs to improve

    given standard ranges UTG opens we would give him AA-TT AK,AQ,AJs maybe ATs.

    MP calls could be TT-22,Ax,KQ,KJ,KTs,QJs,QTs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s ,

    BB calls could be TT-22, Ax, K8s+,Q8s+, JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s.

    FLOP= BB bets out 1/2 pot into 2 other players this changes his range

    value range: Alot of his range consists of aces now, if hes a weak player he might lead out with any weak ace. The rest of his value ranges are AJ,(4 combos cause you have JJ)AQ, KT, QJ, he has alot more value range than bluff range.

    when MP goes all in it doesn't make JJ look too hot here, also BB has everybody covered at the table so calling the MP all in not knowing what the BB will do next when he opened the action is risky. on the turn your left with

    POT= $2.98

    $3.49 to call

    $3.49 /($3.49+$2.98)=
    $3.49/$6.47 = 0.539

    You need 53% equity to make this call

    If villain has a straight you have 10 outs (any A,K,Q, or the one Jack remaining)

    however if you discount your villains likely holdings, MPs holdings and not forgetting UTG started the open raise I would discount maybe 1 ace for UTG even though he couldve had AK.
    Given the action lets just say 3 of your 10 are gone.

    you have 7 outs
    7x2=14% equity to win against his Villains straight

    what else does he have here?

    JQ? thats a higher full house

    theres not much else hes shoving with it was a bad call unless you had reads villain was a bluffer. Try to put ranges on your opponents so you can make calculations like these
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