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07-29-2016 , 12:29 PM

R00Tee

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Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 559

Villain is pretty unknown but playing 60/20 over 15 hands so I feel like potentially a fish. OTF I should have gone bigger, I know but for some reason I thought it was a paired board. Should I have checked somewhere?

[converted_hand][hand_history]WPN, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $13.35 (133.5 bb)
MP: $17.40 (174 bb)
CO: $9.47 (94.7 bb)
BTN: $17.06 (170.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

MP folds, CO raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.80, CO calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.65) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.85) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO calls $2

River: ($6.85) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $9.95 and is all-in,

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07-29-2016 , 12:47 PM

ScoopMonkey

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,910

C-bet bigger, at least $1.20 and go from there. Likely going with a bet/bet/bet line.

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07-29-2016 , 12:47 PM

Clanty

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Going off 15 hand samples is going to have a lot of reverse implied odds unless extreme, like 90% VPIP etc.

AP I dislike your flop sizing as I think you should have a big checking range here which your bet contradicts.

Turn looks good

River is OK vs a confirmed fish but this guy isn't one. I'd probably bet $4 or check to induce bluffs.

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07-29-2016 , 12:55 PM

R00Tee

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 559

Like I said, I thought for some reason that this was a paired board which is why I bet so small. Obviously would have bet bigger had I taken another look at the flop. Villain has 6$ behind OTR so I feel like my options are shove, fold or bet really really small (like 2$).

And given so many things missed OTR I feel like I'll get called fairly often by TT or a 9. I've seen people even call with things like 7s or 8s in spots like this.

If you're checking do you intend to call a shove?

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07-29-2016 , 01:00 PM

Clanty

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Calling with TT/9x is optimistic as that means the only hands are folding are missed draws. Villain has 78 2p sets to call instead that you value own yourself against.

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07-29-2016 , 01:08 PM

R00Tee

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Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 559

Boats or quads are 7 combos (66, 99, 55). 78 is really only 4 combos as I don't belive offsuit versions are getting called pre. and I'm ahead of all 2 pairs. So if he calls TT and A9 it's profitable right? To big an if?

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07-29-2016 , 01:14 PM

Clanty

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9 boats including 45 65

+ 78 = 13 hands. He also has QQ there = 19 hands better to call than TT, not saying I'd fold TT but I'd fold 9x

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07-29-2016 , 01:32 PM

R00Tee

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 559

Blah. I know you're right I just want so desperately for this to have been a good jam. But it's too much wishful thinking.

In game he ended up snapping me off with A5o which left really confused. If he can have A5 he can have A6 and A9 or a whole bunch of complete randomness. And if he's calling with complete randomness pre won't he call with marginal crap post as well? Does that make it a good shove? I don't know.

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07-29-2016 , 02:13 PM

garyoak123

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Anyone think of checking this flop to balance ourselves? I think that's what the small bet is supposed to look like; a check.

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07-29-2016 , 03:49 PM

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Clanty

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Betting small and checking are not similar in theory.

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07-29-2016 , 05:08 PM

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ChipsNcrisps

Pooh-Bah

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Bet bigger otf

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07-29-2016 , 07:00 PM

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proclies

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Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 144

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Originally Posted by R00Tee

That's the kind of hand that I thought he'd be playing after the call on the turn. I think we opt for a check call on the river for less variance. His bet sizing feels fishy and he isn't calling with many paired 9's on the flop (except 910).

Because you've played with him so little the reverse implied odds are huge. He could have 10's+ to any type of Axs, pairs, suited connectors calling light in position. By betting turn you bet out most draws and weaker hands, and by the river I don't think it's worth value betting.

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07-29-2016 , 10:23 PM

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R00Tee

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Originally Posted by proclies

Yeah. Totally agree. That's a really good lesson for me to learn. Thanks a lot.

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07-29-2016 , 11:26 PM

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bj84288721

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Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 454

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Originally Posted by Clanty

guy proly had pot size left. We either ship it or check to induce a bluff i think.

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07-29-2016 , 11:42 PM

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boeingfish116

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So you're saying u misread the flop? Anyway, I think you're playing fine except the bet sizing due to misread. Please play your A game!

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07-30-2016 , 09:10 AM

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R00Tee

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Originally Posted by boeingfish116

So you're saying u misread the flop? Anyway, I think you're playing fine except the bet sizing due to misread. Please play your A game!

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Yeah for some very stange reason I glanced at the flop and thought it was 959. I guess I just thought they dealt the 6 unpside down? lol

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