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10-28-2013 , 12:29 PM
No reads on villain at the time of this hand but seemed to be playin pretty tight over the 30 hand sample I had on him.

    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20266561

    CO: $10 (100 bb)
    BTN: $4 (40 bb)
    SB: $10 (100 bb)
    BB: $8.93 (89.3 bb)
    UTG: $9.15 (91.5 bb)
    Hero (MP): $12.37 (123.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J J
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.40, CO calls $0.40, 3 folds

    Flop: ($0.95) 3 9 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.70, CO raises to $2.10, Hero calls $1.40

    Turn: ($5.15) K (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $2.58, Hero calls $2.58

    River: ($10.31) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $4.92 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $10.31 pot ($0.46 rake)
    Final Board: 3 9 9 K 8
    CO mucked and won $9.85 ($4.77 net)
    Hero mucked J J and lost (-$5.08 net)



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    Should I be folding turn here? I see it as a blank unless he has flopped trips and also after calling turn should I be calling river? I felt that he must think I have a big overpair or a set myself so for him to shove river my thinking was that he expects me to call with my overpairs once ive called the turn. What do you guys think?
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    10-28-2013 , 03:32 PM
    Call down, 10NL regs are often good enough to recognise that you won't have much on this board but not good enough to consider their perceived range when raising. They're also not going to value-jam Kx on this river.
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    10-28-2013 , 04:05 PM
    Yeah I really wanted to call as I felt the king was definitely a blank but didn't think he would bluff this river when it seems so obvious I have an overpair and without reads he can't assume i'm folding an overpair very often here.
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    11-04-2013 , 10:53 AM
    raise on the flop. as played if you called the turn, you can't fold the river. how is the 8 improving his hand?
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    11-04-2013 , 11:33 AM
    why do you want to 3bet the flop?
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    11-04-2013 , 11:37 AM
    for value. cant he have a lot of smaller pp's?
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    11-04-2013 , 11:45 AM
    Yeah he can but not sure if alot of smaller pps are calling a 3bet otf. Think it'd be better to keep his junk in no?
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    11-04-2013 , 11:45 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by erock216
    for value. cant he have a lot of smaller pp's?
    He's bluff heavy when he raises our cbet. If we 3b we isolate his value hands that beat us and fold out all his bluffs which we are ahead of.

    Agreed that calling down is the way to go here. He doesn't rep much.
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    11-04-2013 , 12:12 PM
    if he is a somewhat sensible reg he has air here or a smaller p p turned into a bluff, any donk might reraise this flop with an 8, you never know, passive fishies aren't doing this with air or something worse then what you have
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