No real history between me and villain thus far...
he was running 21/17/agg-12/ f3b-88/ 4b range-3/ w$wsf 57/ fcbet 100/ over 100 hands or so... i mean he does look like a pretty honest player and is positionally aware.
i was running 23/20/agg-5/ cbet-65/ 3b-6%
He was tanking before he made the call, so I was guessing he had a hand that was indifferent between calling or 4betting...which could be KK, QQ or JJ

UTG: $102.65
CO: $39.75
BTN: $28.65
Hero (SB): $101.25
BB: $50.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with A A
UTG raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, UTG requests TIME, UTG calls $7

Flop: ($18.50) K Q 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG requests TIME, UTG bets $11.50, Hero folds

Wow...

200BB deep against a decent player I like a c/c otf.

never fold aa

idk if the flop is a689a

never fold!

wo,

never thinking about folding
and I think that it's ev- to fold here.
Yes, he can have KK but he can also have AKo/s

Yea i was thinking about AK as well, but i think the fact that I have 2 Aces in my hand makes it so unlikely he has AK.

OP, what range do you assign villain to call your 3bet?

lol

fold pre imo

pretty much any PP and suited connectors

I'm pretty sure folding here is a bad play. He would have four bet you with K-K here, IMO. He is most likely raising UTG with ak o/s or something like J-J or maybe even A-Q. I don't think he can just flat your raise pre with k-k here. i also don't put him on q-q here, but again, you have no information as he has offered you no real history or information before this hand. personally, I like to possibly lead out here, go for a c/r or even just a c/c but a c/f is a bad play.

Lead the flop.

As played call. I cant fold yet.

villain doesnt have KK or QQ here

^^ QQ is very possible 200BB deep.

so let´s consider this a little further

he opens 17% of his hands total. that´s maybe 10% or something UTG. he folds 88% of his 10% opening range to 3bets. so he continues with roughly 1-2% of his range

he will 4bet his AA/KK for sure (he doesn´t seem like a tricky slowplay fish donk idiot)

i think we´re up against AK,QQ, JJ alot of the time + we have the backdoor NFD

i think with aces here i´d bet out 10$ and see what he does. he will bet his AK as well as his AQ here (which is rather unlikely)

^^ we only have 100 hands so making detailed ranges is kind pointless.

He is also calling more 3bets since we are deep and he´s got position

What do we do if we bet out and got raised? I suppose we call his raise, what if he bombs a blank turn again? If this was BvB, I would've gotten the money in already, but considering I haven't 3bet that much and I was in SB 3betting his tight UTG open. In retrospective, I think I should've just x/c...but its hard to put on on lower PP because not many people are capable of turning their hands into a bluff in this spot in these stakes. So i guess I'm ahead of his draws and AK, but I pretty much ruled out AK because of me having 2 Aces.

You are right, he could have all sorts of hands here, which makes this even worse of a fold now...

yep we have only 100 hands so we´re only having a small tendency of how he will act in certain situations you´re 100 right

i just wanted to give some thoughts of how his range will probably look like

even after 100 hands we know: light 3 betting this guy will be profitable cuz he folds too much. he only continue his top range which is probably QQ+ - maybe - JJ as well as AKo/s

as for the fact we´re blocking some AK combo´s - there are still plenty out there. as he folds too much to 3bets i don´t think he´s "that" good - so he probably doesn´t know how good a hand like AQs or AKs plays in deep spots (making Nut Flushes as well as Nut str8s)

but i think he brings in AA/KK pre (he 4bttet at least 3% over 100 hands) - maybe AK - maybe not. his 3bet calling range may be AK+JJ-QQ. maybe even TT - i have to admit tihs sample size is quite low to judge it 100% correct. but we don´t have a history of 10k hands all the time...

so i´d say he has something like QQ,JJ, AK here - very narrow range but well.. yeah.

You are right, QQ is possible, but villain can play AK this way also. This is never a c/f.

(point was to OP not you obv)

There are as many AK combos left as there are KK-QQ combined.

Yep, and KK and QQ are both more likely to 4-bet preflop, so AK is more likely to show up here.

combos of KK: 3
combos of AK: 6

this

i think c/c flop is the best line although it makes the hand way harder to play than leading. if you lead flop, he folds everything you beat except AK and maybe AQs, which isn't so terrible because the pot's already pretty big.

checking flop opens him up to try and get cute with JJ-99 but it makes future streets really hard to play if he's the type to double- or triple-barrel those hands in a 3bet pot on a scary board. he will probably also double-barrel AK for value, and you have to factor that in as well.

as played, i think the only way i'm folding is if he triple barrels and i don't improve. he should give up with mid pairs on the turn, and check back AK on the river bc he has showdown value.

Exactly.

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