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01-07-2008 , 02:48 AM
OK villain here is nickyb2350. He's 37/22/2.3 and I have a note on him saying he's betting whenever checked too (including with bottom pair). Original raiser is a good aggro TAG, other caller is a huge fish.

Pre was a bluff against the OR and for value against the other two.

Went for the flop c/r because he's betting his entire range and I figured my line looked full of ****?

This is goot right?

Absolute Poker $5.00/$10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $1830.25
SB: $1194.75
Hero (BB): $3277.00
UTG: $2214.00
MP: $2042.00
CO: $1714.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with Q A
1 fold, MP raises to $40, CO calls $40, 1 fold, SB calls $35, Hero raises to $220, 1 fold, CO calls $180, 1 fold

Flop: ($520.00) T Q 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $230, Hero raises to $1000, CO raises to $1494 all in, Hero calls $494

Turn: ($3508.00) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($3508.00) A (2 players - 1 is all in)
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01-07-2008 , 02:51 AM
i like, cr less though - give him illusion of FE imo
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01-07-2008 , 02:54 AM
flop is obv goot with this read.
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01-07-2008 , 03:33 AM
i just c/shove

he's gotta felt any T he calls pf with, and any draw he's betting here has tons of equity as oesd/gutshot/T are all v viable with this flop

i dont think he's suddenly folding hands to a c/shove that he'd get in with if you make it 800/1k/whatever.

shoving looks even bluffier and he'll put you on AK
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01-07-2008 , 05:44 AM
This is very nice.
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01-07-2008 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 0evg0
i just c/shove

he's gotta felt any T he calls pf with, and any draw he's betting here has tons of equity as oesd/gutshot/T are all v viable with this flop

i dont think he's suddenly folding hands to a c/shove that he'd get in with if you make it 800/1k/whatever.

shoving looks even bluffier and he'll put you on AK
meh i guess, I was just hoping he'd go with some fd that he wouldn't go with if it was 100% a pot odds situation.

also, bump for the people who aren't vampires.
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01-07-2008 , 12:36 PM
meh i mean with ur read its ok, but obv to balance u have to bet out here most of the time and thats probably what id do. the way u played it as mentioned above u dont give this agressive player any folding equity so it leaves for less hands hes bet/calling. Even if hes betting his whole entire range doesngt mean that hell call for value with a hand like bottom pair. I guess this is ok every once in a while but im not really a big fan. I think bet/calling allows him to push worse hands more often hoping youd fold.
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01-07-2008 , 01:12 PM
its good for sure although I'd cr less... I dunno if its better than betting... If he is the bluff raise type too then I think betting is probably better
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01-07-2008 , 01:23 PM
dare i say optimal?
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01-07-2008 , 01:44 PM
i like it, but i like it more against guys who insta pot when you check to them. if you suspected he might bet this little i'd prob just go ahead and bet it
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01-07-2008 , 01:44 PM
This would work better if you voted Ron Paul.
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01-07-2008 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xorbie
This would work better if you voted Ron Paul.
lol

seriously though, I like this, and I would probably just shove because he'll probably just put you on AK or some draw, and he'll probably felt any pair he bet the flop with.
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01-07-2008 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AAismyfriend
lol

seriously though, I like this, and I would probably just shove because he'll probably just put you on AK or some draw, and he'll probably felt any pair he bet the flop with.
you really think hes bet calling 10 8 of diamonds here?
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01-07-2008 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AcTiOnJaCsOn
you really think hes bet calling 10 8 of diamonds here?
This is pretty dependent on OP's image/history between the two, but I see people c/rai with AK a lot on these QTx type boards a lot, so if I bet 8T here it wouldnt be because I wanted to fold to a shove.
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01-07-2008 , 05:16 PM
well he showed up with KK here, which i think is in the top 10% of his calling range... so meh

i run goot, in this hand at least
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