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I need someone to tell me this is +EV :*( I need someone to tell me this is +EV :*(

08-29-2010 , 12:27 PM
So all the players at the table were playing super aggro calling and raising every other hand. I was on a little heater until this hit me so i also had a wild and crazy image.

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 894186
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Hero (CO): $10.28
BTN: $5.12
SB: $3.95
BB: $8.10

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with 8 8
Hero calls $0.05, BTN raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.23, BB calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.00) J Q 8 (4 players)
SB bets $0.70, BB raises to $2.46, Hero raises to $5.15, BTN folds, SB folds, BB raises to $7.85, Hero calls $2.70

Turn: ($17.40) 2 (2 players)

River: ($17.40) J (2 players)


what can i do any better in this spot? is it just a cooler or what?
08-29-2010 , 12:32 PM
this is +EV.

and open raise ffs.
08-29-2010 , 12:35 PM
Open raise pre. As played, just shove the flop, raising tiny looks a lot stronger.

Post in the micro stakes forum. And please don't ask if it's a cooler if you want objective responses.
08-29-2010 , 12:37 PM
think i should open raise with 4 people in? i had been raising a lot and it probably would have just caused a reraise that i wouldn't have been able to call. also raising with low pocket pairs into a multiway pot is that a good idea? just asking thanks for the help
08-29-2010 , 12:44 PM
If you think it's likely that you will be re-raised because all the players at the table really are as aggro and crazy as you say then you certainly don't have to fold a hand as strong as 88 to a 3 bet.
08-29-2010 , 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTilt
So all the players at the table were playing super aggro calling and raising every other hand. I was on a little heater until this hit me so i also had a wild and crazy image.

it's +EV
08-29-2010 , 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTilt
think i should open raise with 4 people in? i had been raising a lot and it probably would have just caused a reraise that i wouldn't have been able to call. also raising with low pocket pairs into a multiway pot is that a good idea? just asking thanks for the help
in general, open limping is a bad idea. You are helping people target your hand range if you raise with one set of hands and limp with another set.

It's good that you're thinking steps ahead ("if I raise and I'm reraised, what do I do?"), but you can't discount the situation NOW, before that possible reraise. 88 at a four handed table is a strong hand. Raise for value. If you are reraised, then take that situation into account at that time, based on opponent/stacks/position, etc.
08-29-2010 , 01:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTilt
think i should open raise with 4 people in? i had been raising a lot and it probably would have just caused a reraise that i wouldn't have been able to call. also raising with low pocket pairs into a multiway pot is that a good idea? just asking thanks for the help
4 people=88 looks mighty good. Smaller PP's could be maybe even open folded if you think you'll get into trouble but 88 has pair value alone, especially if game is aggro.

Limp-calling leaves you in trouble AND if they are raising light even hitting into set is no quarantee you are going to win big pot. a) you might hit but still be behind b) you might hit but they resuck with say straight or flush draw c) opponents were raising light pf and ergo won't have hand they feel like stacking off...
08-29-2010 , 01:21 PM
ev+
08-29-2010 , 01:23 PM
you really need people to tell you it's +EV to stack off with a set at an aggressive table?
08-29-2010 , 01:57 PM
This is super standard

Download poker stove, put in people's ranges, and don't be results oriented.
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