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i have a pair, gutshot and position but tight villain fires two streets. i have a pair, gutshot and position but tight villain fires two streets.

12-07-2008 , 08:54 AM
Villain is on a nitish side, playing 17/14 and 5% of 3bet during big sample of hands, we do not have any history w\ each other, just nothing that i can remember. So thoughts? Maybe somebody play flop another way?


$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($738.30)
UTG+1 ($61.00)
CO ($627.00)
Hero (BTN) ($400.00)
SB ($437.00)
BB ($400.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 6 players) Hero is BTN T T
3 folds, Hero raises to $12, SB raises to $44, 1 fold, Hero calls $32

Flop: 9 3 7 ($92, 2 players)
SB bets $74, Hero calls $74

Turn: J ($240, 2 players)
SB bets $174, Hero???
i have a pair, gutshot and position but tight villain fires two streets. Quote
12-07-2008 , 08:58 AM
What's your plan for the rest of the hand when calling there on the flop?
i have a pair, gutshot and position but tight villain fires two streets. Quote
12-07-2008 , 09:14 AM
Fold if he bets, check if he checks, river dependable.
i have a pair, gutshot and position but tight villain fires two streets. Quote
12-07-2008 , 09:42 AM
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Fold if he bets
/thread

seriously, 5% 3bet range is like TT+, AQ+, KQs, that's it and he is a nit w/o history, so i mean... when his range is so well defined and he is unlikely to go nuts with air and will c/f it, or give up at some point, it's SO easy to do math on this problem, it's ridiculous
i have a pair, gutshot and position but tight villain fires two streets. Quote
12-07-2008 , 09:43 AM
Shove.
i have a pair, gutshot and position but tight villain fires two streets. Quote
12-07-2008 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ArturiusX
Shove.
explain your thinking? hero has no idea if villain 2 barrels in 3 bet pot< what do we actually need to know to make this shove +EV?
i have a pair, gutshot and position but tight villain fires two streets. Quote
12-07-2008 , 12:23 PM
pf and flop are pretty standard, unless he is 3betting a ton from the blinds, then i don't mind 4betting here and calling it off...

im tempted to call this off given that your hand seems pretty faceup, unless you hit a set on the flop, you have a marginal 1 pair hand or a float.
i have a pair, gutshot and position but tight villain fires two streets. Quote
12-07-2008 , 12:34 PM
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im tempted to call this off given that your hand seems pretty faceup, unless you hit a set on the flop, you have a marginal 1 pair hand or a float.
then shove turn, coz river will be like 108$ bet which isn't even 1/3 pot and he is not firing his bluffs for this price on the river
i have a pair, gutshot and position but tight villain fires two streets. Quote

      
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