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01-13-2009 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HEK
i can't post here anymore guys. it's very tempting trying to correct all the untruths in the last few pages but I can't jepeordize my situation.
Probally for the best HEK...Keep your head up and keep grindin Mohegan, I just got back and again had a pleasant/sucessful trip!
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01-13-2009 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bully28
My only point was that both players were told specifically by the floor to do any side deals AWAY from the table.

How do you know that? Neither HEK NOR Brooklyn_72 indicate that this was the case.

If that was your only point, what a terrible post...

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And in my "high stakes" experience, which obviously pales in comparison to yours, blatantly passing chips in play across the table is a pretty big no-no as it smacks of collusion and is unfair to the other players.

Yes, I am going to say that your "high stakes" experience does pale in comparison with mine. I have seen people pass chips across the table. No one at the table was the least bit concerned.

Why would other players suspect collusion when two people play a hand, an equity deal is made and then chips are passed based on that equity deal?

My whole point was that you are much more likely to see ridiculous rule breaking/side deals at a high stakes table than at a low stakes table. At lower stakes tables, they just don't allow this type of horse****.
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01-13-2009 , 07:42 PM
Go to Mohegan.
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01-13-2009 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jalexand42
lol, you sound like you're the one worked up dude. Noone else is swearing and telling people to 'calm the **** down'. just lol.

Were you there? You're ripping on him assuming he didn't show him exact equity when common sense would instead assume that Todd SHOWED him the screen on his phone.

Do you even know either of the players here or are you just trying to show off your auditing skills? Also, please clarify which of Todd's actions were ridiculous?

Most of my post clearly went over your head, so I'm not going to bother rehashing...


But as for Todd's ridiculous actions:

1. taking several minutes to act on an easy call. Of course, taking several minutes is way too long for any decision in poker. This is not chess we're talking about.

2. offering an equity deal

3. saying Foxwoods allows equity deals

4. insisting that Foxwoods allows equity deals after the dealer and floor both tell him it is not allowed

5. still insisting on working out an equity deal after having taken the time to call the floor over

6. sending over someone else to follow Dentale to the cashier

I could go on, but this is tiresome.
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01-13-2009 , 08:22 PM
there isn't a single accurate statement from those 6 points above. Not ONE.
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01-13-2009 , 08:23 PM
wait i did offer the equity deal so # 2 is correct. Everything else is just garbage.
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01-13-2009 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HEK
wait i did offer the equity deal so # 2 is correct. Everything else is just garbage.

From OP:


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I explained that foxwoods does not allow running it twice but they will allow us to do an EQUITY CHOP.

There seems to be an awful lot of confusion surrounding this whole issue, which is not surprising giving the chaotic situation you helped to cause.
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01-13-2009 , 09:30 PM
This is a nice soap opera.
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01-13-2009 , 10:46 PM
just play online
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01-14-2009 , 01:02 AM
man this sucks for you it really does.........but when it came down to it, you made a deal with an unknow player, a not legally binding deal with an unknow player.

see in the gambling world all we have is our word, it is obv you took a chance on an unknown's word............he has broken his word..........

and now you are going to have to move on and deal with it. In fact, with all the drama that has surrounded this saga......how can you ever think anyone is ever going to make you feel comfortable in that poker room even IF you are able to go back and play.
Does it suck that dude is a worthless piece of SHAT...YES he is for not keeping his word....but has it been worth all this and getting kicked out? NO

TWO LESSONS LEARNED HERE:

1. Life is full of choices and you have to live with you choices you make
2. NEVER I mean NEVER do business with an UNKNOWN player, or a player you have NOT played with MANY times and have SEEN do business SEVERAL times. Even then NEVER do business unless you have recourse through the house.
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01-14-2009 , 03:00 AM
Off the point of thread but HEK go play online............
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01-14-2009 , 03:05 AM
I will keep track of this thread. I go to FW to play poker every couple of months or so. I will be playing at Mohegan until this gets resolved. Hope it works out for you.
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01-14-2009 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklyn 72
Plus the fact he pushed the whole sceniro so fast with out me fully understanding the outcome!
That's because you're ******ed.
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01-14-2009 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by I rebluff you
HEK, what happened to you is terrible. Maybe I'm just more of a rough character than you are, but if someone or two people did that to me, since I'd be banned anyway I definitely wouldn't let them off easily. I would wait outside until they are finished and in anything-but-subtle ways tell them that, hey, I'm banned from Foxwoods so they can collaborate in that game now to cheat others out of pots, but what are they gonna do when a session is over, they still gotta walk out to the garage to their fkn cars and drive home right? It's a dangerous world out there just think about all the possibilities that can happen on a drive home, and no this ain't a threat but it's reality and bad things happen to bad people. Look them in the eye and say that.

I would never ever let cheating a$$holes beat me at a game of poker... NEVER. If someone wants to lower themselves to do that to me live I would make sure they are scared just going to play at the same place again. I guess you're too nice for your own good... but maybe you are a better man than I am.
This is why so many people at the Taj in AC get stabbed...
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01-14-2009 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklyn 72
It so funny how you kids sit behind a computer and call people names. Why don't we all just discusss this in person! I NEVER AGREED TO GIVE HIM 40% OF THE MONEY.That would mean he would get his entire bet back. Why the f--k would I do that. Plus the fact he pushed the whole sceniro so fast with out me fully understanding the outcome!
Are you serious about that? I never heard about 'entire bet'.

The only thing that matters is the whole money inside the pot. If he had won, wasn't you expected to receive 3500, because that was your equity on the pot?

I really can believe there's people beating 10/20 without realizing this as the most obvious thing on earth.
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01-14-2009 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklyn 72
I can't want untill I get a picture of you. I won't be putting it on the internet. I will be passing out to my boys in the borgata.... And yes I will be there for the entire winter open! I will make it my bussiness to track you down you half of queer!
LOL Thats some funny ****! I didn't know chemo patients are 195 pounds at
5'11 with 16 1/2 inch arms. At least your girl likes the size of my c--k.

So you are macho enough to beat someone who correctly explains you face-to-face what's chop equity and that makes you a stand up guy?

A stand up guy would pay $2400-2500 to HEK since it is the only reasonable deal. Calculating how much to pay him back based on his bet is pretty lame. If you didn't undertand chop equity, now you do, so you still have time to show you're not a cheater. Pretending that you don't understand to avoid paying what is correct is not typical from a stand up guy.

But I better shut up, right? Otherwise, you can broke my teeth for telling you the truth.
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01-14-2009 , 10:07 AM
thread has gotten interesting again. lol @ threatening someone over a post they made on the internet. 2.4k fight yo?
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01-14-2009 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklyn 72
LOL Thats some funny ****! I didn't know chemo patients are 195 pounds at
5'11 with 16 1/2 inch arms. At least your girl likes the size of my c--k.
You're actually vain enough at your age to measure your biceps?

16.5" is nothing to be proud of either dude. I think the only person in the poker world you may have even the slightest chance of intimidating due to sheer physical prowess is William Rockwell. I've met girl guides that are tougher than you.


If all NE USA live pros are as stupid as you, I may have to move down there and clean out your kids' community college funds.
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01-14-2009 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklyn 72
Why don't we all just discusss this in person!
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As for kk405 I wil be looking for you.
I'm so sorry I live in Italy; b/c I would have been the first one to meet you in person; sounds like you are threatening, that's the way someone near-Neanderthal reacts when he is not in the right.
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01-14-2009 , 11:47 AM
judgement: brook should give him 500 more

but its OP's fault, u cannot assume people understand stuff so quickly...why did u even want to make a deal?

who gives af uck about runninig it twice, i almost never do and the only times i do is when some poor guy is begging me and i have him smashed, or if i dont have enough $ in my pocket to reload at the time which never happens unless shot taking so w/e lol
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01-14-2009 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by needham
how can you ever think anyone is ever going to make you feel comfortable in that poker room even IF you are able to go back and play.
Todd did not do anything wrong for people to make him feel uncomfortable. why would people give him a problem?

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Originally Posted by needham
2. NEVER I mean NEVER do business with an UNKNOWN player, or a player you have NOT played with MANY times and have SEEN do business SEVERAL times. Even then NEVER do business unless you have recourse through the house.
deals with "unknown players" are done all the time! Dentale did try to push a stack over Todd's way as soon as he got paid, the floor gave him a chance to re-think it.
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01-15-2009 , 03:29 AM
HEK, I work at Foxwoods and asked a friend who is a security guard tonight how a player who was banned for life would go about attempting to be reinstated. He said the proper procedure is to mail a letter to the Director of Security, pleading your case, why Foxwoods should allow you back in, and what you will do differently to abide by the rules. I forgot the address at work, but I can get it tomorrow if you haven't already sent a letter. He said sometimes they make you wait a year, but I believe that is on a case by case basis.

fwiw, I think it would be a bad idea to consult a lawyer to help with reinstatement.
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01-15-2009 , 03:39 AM
although that same advice has been brought up a few different times throughout this thread it's good to hear from someone who actually works there reiterate it. i'm sure HEK probably already knew those things by now but i doubt he wants to wait close to a year to be let back in.
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01-17-2009 , 05:58 PM
"how can you know anything about my game if you cant see my cards, what if i limp AK and miss the flop"


lol live pros
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01-19-2009 , 04:11 PM
bump in hopes brooklyn 72 comes back to post!

any updates HEK?
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