Villain is a very mediocre reg, 20/16/3.4, and no stranger to these stakes. I've been pretty splashy up to this point, and we've tangled in a few spots.

KJs, not entirely sure this is a great 3 bet against this player, especially OOP and deep.

Flop seems like an standard bet, i think i call if raised.

Turn, really no idea what the optimal line is here. I think i probably chose the worst possible.

River, seems like he could have any number of hands that have me beat, or missed draws, i think its still probably a fold though.

Party Poker $600.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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CO: $1200.00
BTN: $1209.00
SB: $1285.00
Hero (BB): $2376.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is BB with J K
1 fold, BTN raises to $21, 1 fold, Hero raises to $72, BTN calls $51

Flop: ($147.00) 8 T K (2 players)
Hero bets $121.00, BTN calls $121

Turn: ($389.00) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $300.00, Hero calls $300

River: ($989.00) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $716.00, Hero folds

call

I think every extra dollar you inflate the pot with preflop is subtracting from your postflop edge against a mediocre player, especially OOP and deep enough that he's more apt to call you. If villain was folding to 3bets a large percentage of the time AND our hand didn't play as strongly postflop as KsJs does, then I think a stronger case for 3betting preflop can be made. Our dilemmas on every street now occur because of the inflation of the pot with a hand we're not too comfortable playing a large pot with.

Still, I think you played the hand perfectly from the flop on, though I think your flop bet is a tad too large and would prefer 110. Iwouldn't hate a c/c on this flop either, though i think it leaves us in the dark and makes us talk ourselves into hero calling later streets. I'd probably be leading any other turn, but bet/calling with TPGK and a gutter on this board is just too spewy for a whole buy in plus more if he had shoved for 716 on top (and obviously betfolding when we have nut outs is no bueno). Once the river gets there we only beat complete air and the rare AQ turned into a bluff (though I don't think a mediocre player is capable of this kind of hand reading). I also don't think he should be expecting us to fold AK, which is exactly what our hand looks like.

I think he shows up with AJ, KQ, and QT a lot here.

nice post CJ. i think i like folding the river too, though it's gotta be close. i wouldn't be that surprised to see him show up with QQ or J9s, either.

preflop makes this hand impossible to play correctly

i think all streets were totally standard

Wouldnt be surprised if he shows AA, I dont like the 3-betting too much oop this deep, cause many players will call any two to get whole your stack, and KJ isnt a hand I would stack off with unless I hit 2pair, straight or a very good draw. Even with tp dry board etc.
You are puttinng yourself to make a very tough decision.. I think he probaly would check turn behind with that turn card and board, if he has some sort of draw whatever, K is always scarecard and he might be afraid to get check-raise. And block-betting or checking-calling river wouldnt be bad. The difference with my line is that you come to showdown with same amount of money invested, that is if he checks ofcause.. If he bets turn I rather ship it there instead of taking hard river decision or let him get there, or folding depending on stats and dynamics.

The reason i didn't c-bet smaller is because i didn't want to make any sort of bet size that might induce, but i think it puts me in a tougher spot. Yes it narrows my range slightly, but i think i have to fold a lot more (or at least consider it) when i use a smaller bet size. Given that he'll probably be more inclined to do something spazzy than a better opponent would, i can't really sure how he'll react to a bet that looks weaker.

Even though the consensus seems to be one way on this, I'm still kinda ambivalent about the 3 bet pre. I think there's definite merits to it, but maybe the RIO swings it here.

preflop is fine, I think. Don't see a reason to make a larger than normal cbet. (I don't get your logic. you say you don't want to induce, yet are calling a raise. you want a higher percentage of folds, yet all the extra hands that he would of called would be behind you and you would probably make more money from.)

I play the rest of the hand the same.

I don't consider the c-bet "larger than normal". It's about the same % of pot i'd bet if i was making a normal c-bet in a pot that wasn't 3 bet and where we were 100bb deep instead of 200. The reason everybody c-bets smaller in 3 bet pots nowadays is because of the SPR with 100bb stacks and frequency of 3-bet/c-bet, but i think this goes out the window with 200bb, both because of the stacks and the less frequent 3 betting.

And when i said i think i call in my OP, i meant it to infer that i thought it was close. I think its a decent board to put pressure on when you have position and i don't want him doing it with a very wide range, because a call down is tough here.

Think its bad to 3-bet deep OOP even with KJ.. What happended to postflop poker, seems like everyone 3-bets like maniacs these days.
You either win a small pot or lose a big one, as the situation seems to be here...

3betting or not depends a lot on how often the guy calls 3bets, if he calls 3bets a lot I like 3betting. I would bet the turn tho, there are a lot of hands like JT, T9, AQ, etc in his range that picked up a gutshot.

if he calls 3-bets a lot and is any good then 3-betting here sucks imo b/c of stacks

on river its probably a fold, have you seen this guy play any big pots yet? you didnt really give any kind of solid read.

That's because i don't really have any sort of solid read. I've been playing almost exclusively HU for the past 6 weeks, and this is the first time i've played with him in i don't know how long. I don't really remember much about him, and i don't think i played all that much with him before. TR has him at about 10c/hand over a half mill sample and my DB shows him as a loser over a decent sample too.

The hand happened about 15 minutes into him joining the table, we've played some small medium pots, but nothing that'd give me an amazing read.

meh. if you havent played in a while then its possible he's running a bluff expecting you to start the session on the tight side, but i think i'd still find a fold without any recent history.

I doubt he knows that i haven't been playing 6-max though, i'd guess i'm an unknown who's been splashy this session.

i meant if you hadn't played with him in a while, also if he's seen you splash around he's less likely to be bluffing prob