Very early but villain already 3bet me 2 out of 5 opportunities. 4x was his standard and he raised all 8 buttons before. i already made two c/r on flop after flatting pf, one time taking it down on the flop, second time with a turn barrel. standard call?

NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,780)
($1,220)

Dealt to Hero A J

raises to $80, Hero raises to $220, raises to $1,220 (AI)

I think I'd fold unless he has been 4betting you as well as 3betting you, but I guess if he might be tilted it could be a call but in general I think 61bb pre with AJs is a bit loose.

What stake is this? at 30$ or below I would probably call I guess.

Yeah, I think we can call here, based on what his button raise sizing, frequency, and 3bets suggest about the type of inexperienced husng lag he probably is. Not to mention the increased general aggression that can come about vs some already volatile villains when you do things like check/raise them twice (with a second barrel when he resists the 2nd time) in a short span.

id call but i dont love getting aj in early but against this guy i think youre ahead of his range. just from your description id expect to see some pretty goofy stuff in his range along with all pairs, like a8+ (and maybe even lower), and maybe kq, kj. (but not always obv)

You need 40.9% equity to call.

Against a perfect S-C shoving range {AQ+, 22+} you have 40.9%. If he's this aggro with his 3-betting I'd imagine he's jamming stuff aside from that too. Call.

Didn't think you could call that loose, good to know.

haha ty steve. good to know... actual numbers and "equities" and such.

I would snap it off given the short history between you both.

Do you think that given the dynamic, 3-betting AJss here is the most +$EV for the match. I guess what I'm saying is if you think the chances of him 4-betting you are x%, and that you're equity is say better than 40.9%...say it's like 46 or 47%...this early, ,do you want to set yourself up to call the 4-bet? It seems like against this opponent, with your lead already + his seemingly feral style of play, you're equity to win the match is probably gonna be better than 50%.

I don't know what the hell I'd do, it would really go on some kind of pattern, but I'm thinking I may flat his bet in the BB because this move is +EV, and then look for ways to exploit him while still deep the next couple of levels If the history continues, I can call his 3-bet / call 4-bet a bit lighter even and perhaps 4-bet him myself lighter for value later in the match.

Barry

You makes some sick posts todya.

ty .

snap it off if he's been that aggro imo

I think your emphasis is off here. Without exceptional reads to the contrary, and I don't think they're indicated or implied in the OP, we 3bet AJs because we can reasonably expect that the majority of the outcomes will be a fold or call, and of the latter, we can get value from dominated hands or lots of check/folds on various flops. Not 3betting AJs because it creates a dubious or thin situation if villain 4bets is ignoring what are quite likely to be the majority outcomes. Unless we have a strong reason to believe those outcomes are bizarrely skewed toward villain folding or 4betting, with few flat calls in between -- for example, because his opening range is very strong (with a bit of bottom range stuff thrown in.)

(This is not to deny that we can flat with AJs pf and have it be fine and +EV. I'm just arguing that your take on our 3betting AJs vs this guy seemed to be missing a major component and the point of why it's also fine, not thin, and +EV.)

Call it all day if you have the impression that he's loose. I mean, what you tell is still not a good sample , he could have had a good run of cards

Also agree with lagdonk, so our equity isn't crazy good, but 4betting gets a ton of value when he flats and does fine against a shove.

Call

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