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03-07-2010 , 09:54 PM

SoulAndBone

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 798

Villain raises preflop most of his hands x5bb, bets strong in the river with bottom pair, etc etc

what's the best line for this river?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$5.00+$0.25

Stacks:
Hero (960)
BB (2,040)

Blinds: 10/20

Pre-Flop: (30, 2 players) Hero is SB A

Hero raises to 60, BB calls 40

Flop: Q

(120, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 90, BB calls 90

Turn: 10

(300, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 200, BB calls 200

River: 9

(700, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero ??

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03-07-2010 , 09:56 PM

ImmortalTechnique

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,362

I check because fish like to c/r rivers

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03-07-2010 , 10:35 PM

DocDevil

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Originally Posted by SoulAndBone

Villain raises preflop most of his hands x5bb, bets strong in the river with bottom pair, etc etc

what's the best line for this river?

bet 4 value, tons of worst hands can call u

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03-08-2010 , 01:33 AM

poloboy4

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,718

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Originally Posted by DocDevil

bet 4 value, tons of worst hands can call u

This. I doubt he shows up with a J here a lot unless it was some sort of QJ or KJ hand. Otherwise he's going to call you with KX (seems unlikely given description, he would bet right?), QX, 6X. The only other hands I think he will show up with is FDs but you wouldn't get any value from them anyways...If he doesn't read well and vbets really thin (read wrong) then I'd expect a FD really often and I bet he'll fold. Worse comes to worse hit the rematch button...

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03-08-2010 , 01:36 AM

poloboy4

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,718

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Originally Posted by ImmortalTechnique

I check because fish like to c/r rivers

Okay but what hands are you expecting to get c/r with? Given that he flats pre and c/c 2 streets...and that he clearly bets his made hands strong regardless of how weak they are...

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03-08-2010 , 07:57 AM

tman755

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 200

How often does he raise your limps? How often does he cbet? If he does those a lot, limp/call pre might get more money in the pot if he is really 5x'ing pre always. If he's a maniac, give him some initiative.

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03-08-2010 , 08:59 AM

alexDJI

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Originally Posted by DocDevil

bet 4 value, tons of worst hands can call u

hero has 610 in a 700 pot, so how much do you bet and what do you do vs a shove?

Check or shove if you have a read that he will call you with a pair but I seriously doubt that.

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03-08-2010 , 10:08 AM

Polycarpus

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,212

Check river.
You don't want to face a c/r.
You're basicly hoping for him to have Qx or 6x (play is too passive for a maniac with a K obv), + not have hit a 2nd pair or straight on turn/river + call your riverbet.

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03-08-2010 , 10:20 AM

Sh17Fac3

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bet more on the turn,as played I'd check.

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03-08-2010 , 10:26 AM

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nicecatch08

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check river, i only see value from K rag here. Alot of hands got there, whether it was two pair or a straight.

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03-08-2010 , 12:25 PM

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JSpazz

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6,694

Prob based on gameflow, checking would be standard

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03-08-2010 , 12:52 PM

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DocDevil

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Originally Posted by alexDJI

hero has 610 in a 700 pot, so how much do you bet and what do you do vs a shove?

Check or shove if you have a read that he will call you with a pair but I seriously doubt that.

something rly small, just to get looked up from a Kx a decent amount, and facing a shove I prob fold, unless villain is capable of turning a made hand into a bluff. But cbh is not a leak, just lose some value from his 1 pair hands.

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03-08-2010 , 01:07 PM

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Punch Dancer

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Originally Posted by DocDevil

please don't do this. If you make an induction bet and then fold this river against a spazzy fish you're burning money.

chk>shove>>b/c>>>>>>>>>>>>>>b/f

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03-08-2010 , 01:38 PM

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DocDevil

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Originally Posted by Punch Dancer

please don't do this. If you make an induction bet and then fold this river against a spazzy fish you're burning money.

chk>shove>>b/c>>>>>>>>>>>>>>b/f

yeah, now that I think about it its rly bad, but I still like to get some value out of this river. But I think in game I tend to cbh this river to avoid some hard time.

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03-08-2010 , 05:21 PM

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SoulAndBone

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Thanks

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