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05-28-2012 , 05:55 AM

newcomers

centurion

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Villain is 16/10 over 64 hands fold to 3bet 67%. Not a very big sample so cant really go by that too much.

I hadnt been too aggro, I was running at 21/19 with 3bet of 3%.

PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $12.80
UTG: $16.35
CO: $12.97
BTN: $21.80
Hero (SB): $31.15

Hero posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.24) Hero has K

fold, CO raises to $0.48, BTN calls $0.48, Hero raises to $1.44, fold, CO calls $0.96, BTN calls $0.96

Flop: ($4.48, 3 players) 5

Hero bets $3.21, CO calls $3.21, fold

Turn: ($10.90, 2 players) 3

Hero checks, CO bets $8.32 and is all-in

EDIT: Looking back, I think my squeeze shouldve been about $2 also
Should I have bet flop bigger? Should I have bet called turn? As played, is it a call or a fold?

Last edited by newcomers; 05-28-2012 at 05:56 AM. Reason: E

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05-28-2012 , 06:23 AM

furkae

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Preflop: I don't really like your squeeze (the fact): CO seems somehow passive so he won't really call with worse too often. Your sizing is also way too low: I would have made it to around $2.0 (being OOP). I think you had a nice hand to call with.

Flop: I would have bet half pot: the flop is dry and villain has only 80bb.

Turn is fine if you folded: his bet is mostly for value and you don't beat anything but JJ.

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05-28-2012 , 06:37 AM

Rothstein

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I strongly agree with furkae, KQo is nice hand to call, after you squeeze that hand you are isolating yourself with nitty villain, and fish (or btn who called wide) is folding!
As played, squee bigger, always 3-3.5x OOP, and bet 1/3-1/2 pot sized bet in 3bet pots, because you accomplish the same as 3/4 pot size bet. You can get it in by the river by bet/bet/bet line with 1/2 size, but if you bet 3/4 you must c/r turn or you will get yourself in though spots on river where you have no folding eq (you have only 1/3 stack left)

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05-28-2012 , 07:46 AM

PlayLikeRussian

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Squeeze is so btn dependent, by default I would flat. I can't get used to 16nl sizings lol but the squeeze is too small.

I don't like your flop sizing if you don't intend to jam blank turns because you set up for a shove, I would just bet 1/2 pot otf. As played c/cing is the worst option so c/f as played and I think shoving yourself is too thin especially if he sees you as only 3% 3bet.

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05-28-2012 , 08:04 AM

verneer

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Call the turn.

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05-28-2012 , 09:06 AM

burpst

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Originally Posted by verneer

Call the turn.

What about shoving turn ourselves? Or there is not that many worse hands that clal,while by c we get him chance to stab with floats?

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05-28-2012 , 11:14 AM

Sean_Hi

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 469

1.50 squeeze is too small, $2 minimum
flop bet doesnt need to be so big
i like the turn c/c

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05-28-2012 , 11:24 AM

Soulwaxical

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Am I the only one who really doesnt like flatting pre here? Im not a fan of playing KQo oop vs relatively tight ranges. Im squeezing here most of the time but as has been said, needs to be much bigger. I usually make it ~13bb for an oop squeeze vs 2 opponents. The sizing you made gave him a 6bb call into a 16bb pot with a very good possibility that BTN will call aswell making it a 28bb pot overall.

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05-28-2012 , 02:26 PM

verneer

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Originally Posted by burpst

What about shoving turn ourselves? Or there is not that many worse hands that clal,while by c we get him chance to stab with floats?

I think there is more value is checking for the reasons you mentioned. I guess the main thing is to not fold the turn.

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