Ive been playing 2nl for 2 weeks now.

and i have a profit but it seems really low to me.

how much should i be earning an hour? - i play 8-12~ tables at a time. how much should i be earning per table?

im winning about 1$ an hour right now - which seems really low to me.
obviously i don't expect to win good money at 2nl, but still seems to not make profit if i don't have "luck"

in the last 3 days i earned 22$ - 18$ on day 1 where i was very lucky and the rest on the rest of the days.

I'm asking this so i could understand if there is a problem with my playing (because i constantly keep making adjustments to my game)
or am i doing just fine.

Thank you,
Ron.

ill be nice.

Realistically no one has any idea whether what you're doing is good bad or standard based on what you've posted. Considering the fact that you're playing 2nl though, Im guessing your not a great poker player, so instead of looking at money, (youll never make a significant amount at this level anyways) you should be looking to improve.

-post hands that give you trouble
-read the COTW
-read sircuddles guide to beating micro's
-use poker stove to better understand equity in common spots.
-practise putting your opponents on realistic ranges in common spots.

You're really asking the wrong type of question.

The common measure of win rate is BB/100 hands. At 2nl, the goal is to build a bank roll so you can stop playing 2nl. Win rate doesn't really matter.

that's what i wanted too know, thanks.

doing all of the above - just wanted too know if im doing them good enough

OP just hit the 2p2 courtesy lottery

LOL!!!

Seriously though... winrate is more useful when talked about in bb won per hundred hands. Let's say you avg 10 tables, and each table averages 60 hands an hour. That's 600 hands an hour. $1/6 = about 15 cents, or 7 bb/100 hands.

7bb/100 hands is a fine win rate for this level. Just be aware that 2 weeks is nothing, 10,000 hands is nothing. You can't really make any inferences about how you are actually doing with this data. 50,000-100,000 hands will give you a better estimate of your actual win rate.

GJ though on winning - enjoy it and keep on developing your game.

If you haven't already, i would suggest purchasing Pokertracker 3 or Hold'em manager. Great tools for fine tuning your game. It will also allow you to speak the language the posters here tend to understand. Good luck. I would also recommend listening to my advice on the forums and doing the opposite. Hope this helps. Spleen

bout tree fiddy ( i cant believe nobody has said this yet )

Yes, but since

don't play 50k hands just to figure out your winrate.

Well if you're beating 2NL for 20 bb/100, 50k hands would net you $200. That's not enough to move up beyond 10NL, and I could see someone skipping 5NL since 2NL is so juicy. And if you're not beating it for 20 bb/100, you'd spend even more time there.

Um, no, don't skip 5NL. That's a relatively difficult jump.

As has been said, don't worry about winrate. Just earn money and move up. I think my winrate was like 30bb/100 hands when I played 2NL. Obviously a huge heater, over like 15k hands, but I'm not sticking around to wait for my luck to even out.

My plan would basically be the following:

• 2nl @ 7bb/100 ~10 tables for $1/hour
• --> Target of doubling that winrate over the next 20k hands
• *** Don't be disappointed if you don't hit that target, you can't really control these things over short terms of variance, but it's just something to work towards
• Post a couple hands a day, maybe one trying to get more value and one tough spot
• Post stats in stats and graphs sticky thread at the top of the forum for advice after 20k hands
• Consider dropping tables if you are not improving very quickly (subjective to your own requirements) or running bad. 8-12 tables is pretty ambitious for someone that's only played 2 weeks.
• Think about moving up once you hit $100 BR if you're comfortable
• Give yourself a $25 buffer before moving back down to regroup if necessary
• If you're playing on Stars and buying in for 250bb at 2nl and 200bb at 5nl I might consider a slightly larger BR before moving up
• Take shots at 10nl with $200 BR - if you can maintain at least 7bb winrate @ 5nl you'll play about 30k hands there to boost your BR from $100 --> $200.

$0-$100 2nl
$75-$200 5nl
$150-$500 10nl
$400-$1000 25nl

^ This is what most people consider standard. I at least double this for myself. BR requirements should be higher as you move up due to lower average winrates which result in more variance.

first of all thanks everyone my winrate is fine than for now.

wow, thanks, i really needed such a "plan".
i had one... move to 5nl at 100$ and didn't think much further or how fast should i get there.
I am getting bored at 2nl without atleast 8 tables waiting for a good hand:
getting bored - not concentrated - lose money.

Save this post. When you are losing and want to ask, "What are my leaks," you'll find two of them here.

Regardless if your playing for 2 cents or not, you should never be bored.

If your bored start trying to put ranges on everyone that is in a hand.
Learn to identify the fish.
Find out who will and who won't defend the blinds. Adjust to this.
Practice taking notes on everyone.

These are all things you should be getting used to now, as they will pay off huge later.

Also do not expect to make alot at 2c as the rake is just brutal.

Before you move up I would save 80 dollars and purchase yourself HEM. Than rebuild BR and move up. It will pay for itself.

If you are doing all of the following and still feel you have to much time in between hands, add more tables.

But never EVER be bored playing.

That would be a brutal hit to his BR. No need for such a big step back.

He can simply download PT3 trial and try it for 30 or 60 days, meanwhile moving up to NL10 and THEN saving money for HEM.

+1

Go for the $55 small stakes HEM version that you can upgrade to pro once you hit 100nl.

$55 or $80 or w/e is going to be much easier to make playing 5nl/10nl HUDless than at 2nl with a HUD. No need for the BR hit just yet.

... it came out wrong. i am playing poker because i LOVE this game. but playing 1-2 tables at 2nl - i just feel im not using all my abilities to play and make money.
while playing more tables i feel i can make more money.
the reason i play poker is because i'm never bored of this game

currently im using the trial version of PT3

If you think you're doing well at 2NL with playing 8 tables, then that's fine. I suggest cutting that in half when you move up, though at least at the start. As you get better, build back up to 8.

yeah, il do the same i did when i started playing at 2nl. first i will play 1 table and add to that gradually

anyways... thank you guy. il keep grinding

Couldn't agree more.

Just trying to stress to OP not to fall into that typical trap of applying short term swings up or down to determine their actual skill/success level. Best thing OP could do here is to just keep grinding while developing his game and building his roll so he can move up as soon as his bank roll management strategy permits.

If we're talking about bankroll plans, the following is a classic:



There's a thread that goes with it somewhere in the archives.

According to that, I should be playing like NL50 (instead of NL10).

God, I am a nit.

Yes, you should! 25NL isn't that much harder than 10NL, but the monies are much better.

Yeah, it's not so much that I'm worried as that I found a groove clearing my Ironman bonus at 10NL Rush. Didn't want to mess with a good thing, but I've been running like absolute dog **** for the last couple of days.