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hmmm, this hoe flats my 4bet IP - AK on QTx board hmmm, this hoe flats my 4bet IP - AK on QTx board

08-30-2009 , 02:48 PM
Villain is a big tagfish, just started playin with him today but lines hes taken have been fishy. Stacks off too light and his bet sizing is ridiculous. He runs about 24/18/2 over 300 hands

I made the 4bet a little bigger pf mainly cuz he doesnt seem to fold to them often. I wasn't expecting a flat but I thought there's a small chance so i made it slightly bigger.

Not really sure on this flop - obv I have some equity when called by a whole range of hands, though I don't expect him to fold very much at this point - even some Tx hand that he may have prob isn't folding.

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $593.50
SB: $94.00
BB: $80.00
UTG: $406.00
Hero (MP): $406.00
CO: $203.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is MP with A K
1 fold, Hero raises to $14, CO calls $14, BTN raises to $62, 2 folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $136, 1 fold, BTN calls $74

Flop: ($292.00) 6 Q T (2 players)
Hero
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08-30-2009 , 02:51 PM
This is really optimistic

Board: 6s Qh Ts

Wins Ties Equity
37.96% 4.55% 42.51% ( AsKc )
52.95% 4.55% 57.49% ( 22+ AJ AQ AK KQ )
hmmm, this hoe flats my 4bet IP - AK on QTx board Quote
08-30-2009 , 03:03 PM
c/f and shove pre
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08-30-2009 , 05:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by olof86
c/f and shove pre
I sense results orientedness
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08-30-2009 , 06:07 PM
yeah, cause thats who I am
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08-30-2009 , 06:53 PM
I personally don't love 4bet size, I'd make it 100ish as a standard and If I think the ****** might be flatting I'll make it 200 so I can jam any flop for 1/2 psb
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08-30-2009 , 06:59 PM
wat? Read the hh again and edit ur post imo.
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08-30-2009 , 07:04 PM
lol pre is totally fine ldo.

i b/c for 116 cuz im gangsta
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08-30-2009 , 07:33 PM
yeah i don't think this is a spot you wanna leave yourself a psb on the flop if called (and they will call!)
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08-30-2009 , 07:38 PM
c/f this.
oop pre flop i'd probably just shove given multiway action. i hate playing oop.
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08-30-2009 , 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaGrunt
I personally don't love 4bet size, I'd make it 100ish as a standard and If I think the ****** might be flatting I'll make it 200 so I can jam any flop for 1/2 psb
100ish is unpossible.
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08-30-2009 , 09:52 PM
I don't mind sizing, tho shoving isn't something I'd disagree w/. I'd prob just shove here on the flop w/ all the money in and our monster straight draw and backdoor draw.
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08-31-2009 , 12:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff Disciple
I don't mind sizing, tho shoving isn't something I'd disagree w/. I'd prob just shove here on the flop w/ all the money in and our monster straight draw and backdoor draw.
why do you want to shove the flop? isn't it super facing up the hand?
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08-31-2009 , 12:08 AM
then shove AA, KK, and AQ here every time
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08-31-2009 , 02:01 AM
how but you just b/c 116? i really dont see what the problem is, nor do i see the logic of "villain might flat so it sux"
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08-31-2009 , 02:31 AM
jsut jam i don't see the reason the to get cute here. if he has tenx in his range he has random junky sc's he flats cuz he's ip and is treating your 4bet like a minraise since he's a lagfish or tagfish idk he just seems bad to flat there unless he's tarping but even still i don't feel bad about jamming for meta.
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08-31-2009 , 03:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RollinHand
This is really optimistic

Board: 6s Qh Ts

Wins Ties Equity
37.96% 4.55% 42.51% ( AsKc )
52.95% 4.55% 57.49% ( 22+ AJ AQ AK KQ )
Sure AK is a dog to this range, but if he's playing 22+, do you know how many pairs (better hands) he's folding? God god, f this guy, I'm shoving this flop all day. c/f if abs ridiculous.

Also, if you sense that he'll call some 4bets, def make this like 175 pre.
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08-31-2009 , 03:54 AM
I'd only jam because hero has less than pot...but I think bet/calling might be better since he has a chance to shove worse like KJ or somehting
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08-31-2009 , 08:12 AM
b/c stand hard
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08-31-2009 , 10:32 AM
Shoving is fine given buttons ******ed 3bet size
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08-31-2009 , 10:35 AM
Yeah just jam. You're almost priced in to c/c a shove, so you hardly need any folds.

Personally if I'm 4betting, I always jam OOP over squeezes, IP sometimes CiB.
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08-31-2009 , 01:54 PM
im all in
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08-31-2009 , 04:00 PM
Jam or bet like $200 to really make your hand believable that you hit the nutz or something.
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08-31-2009 , 04:13 PM
Yeah, I mean, if we have a psb left we need 33% odds to c/c right? And if we have 33% or more in equity against his calling range then shouldn't we just be open shoving flop (or betting smaller to make it look more like a vbet? what size do we bet then)? Or wtf am I missing.
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