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Is Hero Clearly Getting owned by AA,KK,QQ Is Hero Clearly Getting owned by AA,KK,QQ

10-11-2009 , 09:18 PM
Is hero's raise on the turn super spewy and is he clearly owned by AA, KK, QQ? Villain's playing a 18/10/3 over a sample of 113.

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Hero (SB): $46.60
BB: $55.63
UTG: $13.73
CO: $11.67
BTN: $25.60

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J J
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 6 5 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

Turn: ($16.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $11.25, BB calls $11.25

River: ($38.50) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $36.38 all in, Hero folds
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10-11-2009 , 09:19 PM
yes is the simple answer
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10-11-2009 , 09:20 PM
donk, donk, c/f? LOL
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10-11-2009 , 09:21 PM
Why donkbet the flop? Check/call is much better, you give him a chance to cbet with his bluffs and missed AK etc. If you think your hand is good enough to get it in on the flop, check/raise even maybe.
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10-11-2009 , 10:13 PM
I prefer a smallish 4-bet/fold to raise. We find out where we are in the hand a lot faster/cheaper than we did with this line.

Another option is check/call flop, check fold turn. I don't expect this opponent to c-bet two streets with AK or whatever other air is in his 3-betting range. We need to keep the pot smallish, we just aren't winning a huge pot here against this opponent.
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10-11-2009 , 10:23 PM
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Is Hero Clearly Getting owned by AA,KK,QQ
No, hero is owning himself
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10-12-2009 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian J
No, hero is owning himself

pointless
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10-12-2009 , 01:01 AM
god i need to go to sleep now
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10-12-2009 , 01:02 AM
Im all in on the river
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10-12-2009 , 01:03 AM
so you mean you b/b donk all in?
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10-12-2009 , 01:09 AM
I c/r that flop and shove turn if he has a bigger hand its a cooler imo,c/f on river is horrible
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10-12-2009 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by deadcat3x
I c/r that flop and shove turn if he has a bigger hand its a cooler imo,c/f on river is horrible
i dont know i've been owned a lot in spots like this with these types of hands in 3bet pots all-in when i just couldn't fold the second best hand.
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10-12-2009 , 01:11 AM
His range is bigger than QQ+, it is not much bigger though and you can get away from this hand.
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10-12-2009 , 01:15 AM
yeah i was gonna say flatting pf widens it a bit and thats why sometimes i convince my self to stick it in because well i only called preflopz.. he could have other handz!!
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10-12-2009 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by deadcat3x
I c/r that flop and shove turn if he has a bigger hand its a cooler imo,c/f on river is horrible
CRAI flop only gets called by better. 18/10/3 is not calling with TT-. It's not a cooler if you self inflict ownage.
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10-12-2009 , 05:18 AM
I think you need to work really hard to play this hand any worse.
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