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10-11-2009 , 09:18 PM

ClimbingV13

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 583

Is hero's raise on the turn super spewy and is he clearly owned by AA, KK, QQ? Villain's playing a 18/10/3 over a sample of 113.

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Hero (SB): $46.60
BB: $55.63
UTG: $13.73
CO: $11.67
BTN: $25.60

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J

3 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

Turn: ($16.00) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $11.25, BB calls $11.25

River: ($38.50) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $36.38 all in, Hero folds

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10-11-2009 , 09:19 PM

Bigheadarch1

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yes is the simple answer

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10-11-2009 , 09:20 PM

subs

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donk, donk, c/f? LOL

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10-11-2009 , 09:21 PM

Grindcore

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Why donkbet the flop? Check/call is much better, you give him a chance to cbet with his bluffs and missed AK etc. If you think your hand is good enough to get it in on the flop, check/raise even maybe.

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10-11-2009 , 10:13 PM

ultramasherguru

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I prefer a smallish 4-bet/fold to raise. We find out where we are in the hand a lot faster/cheaper than we did with this line.

Another option is check/call flop, check fold turn. I don't expect this opponent to c-bet two streets with AK or whatever other air is in his 3-betting range. We need to keep the pot smallish, we just aren't winning a huge pot here against this opponent.

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10-11-2009 , 10:23 PM

Brian J

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Is Hero Clearly Getting owned by AA,KK,QQ

No, hero is owning himself

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10-12-2009 , 12:59 AM

ultramasherguru

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Originally Posted by Brian J

No, hero is owning himself

pointless

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10-12-2009 , 01:01 AM

c00ler

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god i need to go to sleep now

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10-12-2009 , 01:02 AM

deadcat3x

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Im all in on the river

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10-12-2009 , 01:03 AM

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c00ler

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so you mean you b/b donk all in?

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10-12-2009 , 01:09 AM

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deadcat3x

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I c/r that flop and shove turn if he has a bigger hand its a cooler imo,c/f on river is horrible

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10-12-2009 , 01:11 AM

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c00ler

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Originally Posted by deadcat3x

I c/r that flop and shove turn if he has a bigger hand its a cooler imo,c/f on river is horrible

i dont know i've been owned a lot in spots like this with these types of hands in 3bet pots all-in when i just couldn't fold the second best hand.

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10-12-2009 , 01:11 AM

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Masblas

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His range is bigger than QQ+, it is not much bigger though and you can get away from this hand.

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10-12-2009 , 01:15 AM

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c00ler

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350

yeah i was gonna say flatting pf widens it a bit and thats why sometimes i convince my self to stick it in because well i only called preflopz.. he could have other handz!!

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10-12-2009 , 04:52 AM

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RayJing

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Originally Posted by deadcat3x

I c/r that flop and shove turn if he has a bigger hand its a cooler imo,c/f on river is horrible

CRAI flop only gets called by better. 18/10/3 is not calling with TT-. It's not a cooler if you self inflict ownage.

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10-12-2009 , 05:18 AM

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wishiewish

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I think you need to work really hard to play this hand any worse.

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