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07-15-2022 , 12:13 PM

DooDooPoker

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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)
HERO ($38.99) [VPIP: 26.7% | PFR: 23% | AGG: 37.3% | Flop Agg: 43.9% | Turn Agg: 34.1% | River Agg: 35.5% | 3-Bet: 10.9% | 4-Bet: 15.4% | Fold to 4-Bet: 56.2% | Hands: 50728]
BTN ($24.55) [VPIP: 11.1% | PFR: 11.1% | AGG: 33.3% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 14.3% | Fold to 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 20]
SB ($26.02) [VPIP: 19.4% | PFR: 13.9% | AGG: 45.5% | Hands: 37]
BB ($25) [VPIP: 16.7% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 6]
HJ ($25.43) [VPIP: 15.8% | PFR: 10.5% | AGG: 12.5% | Hands: 39]

Dealt to Hero: 8

HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.50, BTN Raises To $2.10, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Raises To $5.45, BTN Calls $3.35

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.7 effective]
Flop ($11.25): 7

HERO Bets $3.50 (Rem. Stack: $30.04), BTN Calls $3.50 (Rem. Stack: $15.60)

Turn ($18.25): 7

HERO Checks, BTN Bets $15.60 (allin), HERO ?

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07-15-2022 , 12:21 PM

Haizemberg93

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Is this a thing pre? I don't think so, esp ve someone who is shaping to be on tighter side.

Call turn ap.

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07-15-2022 , 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93

Is this a thing pre? I don't think so, esp ve someone who is shaping to be on tighter side.

Call turn ap.

I don't like doing much calling OOP at this rake structure. I have it as a mix.

Are you calling 88 no heart OTT?

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07-15-2022 , 12:47 PM

Haizemberg93

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Idk. I would rather just fold if i can't call.

No heart 88 are fold imo

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07-15-2022 , 01:30 PM

AskZandar

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Don't like the 4b at all, and don't like calling the turn.

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07-16-2022 , 02:33 PM

XtraScratch8

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88 is a low freq 4b CO vs BTN.
Probably supposed to just go with it OTT in theory, but in practice probably sucks I would imagine.
I would guess this combo mixes size OTF in theory, but not sure. I think when sizes are mixed here 88/99 type stuff would go into bigger sizing OTF at least sometimes and having a heart seems good for that too.

Edit: by bigger sizings I don’t mean pot or OB or something crazy like the odd weird spot where you do see some 1.5-2x OB OOP flop shoves. I mean more the 33% or even 50% type size. Wouldn’t be surprised if some 50% is used on this board in 4b pot, but could also be shown to be a donkey shortly after posting this.

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07-16-2022 , 02:50 PM

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Thanks for the responses.

I think preflop is pretty close. Turn we have to call.

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07-16-2022 , 03:55 PM

XtraScratch8

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NH, did you look into flop/turn strat?
We probably have to check turn a ton I would think in your spot.

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07-16-2022 , 05:09 PM

pokerfan655

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Not sure why you'd 4 bet this - I think most 4b ranges are going to be constructed of nuts/bluffs/semi bluffs, and 88 doesn't fit any of these categories. Here you get an amazing flop - one of the best outside of the obvious set, and we're lost. As played I would bet bigger OTF - him calling this small bet keeps his range wider. On the turn you just have to GII but you'll lose a fair amount.

Edit - just saw the results. The guy is obviously a spew box which changes strat dramatically.

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07-16-2022 , 05:49 PM

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DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by XtraScratch8

NH, did you look into flop/turn strat?
We probably have to check turn a ton I would think in your spot.

I haven't solved it yet. I'm thinking similarly.

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