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Hand against villain who we caught 3 street bluff in 3bet pot minute earlier - another table Hand against villain who we caught 3 street bluff in 3bet pot minute earlier - another table

08-08-2010 , 06:05 AM
FIRST THE BLUFF HAND:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($145)
BB ($125)
UTG ($48.55)
UTG+1 ($59.50)
Hero ($51.90)
MP1 ($48.60)
CO ($148)
BTN ($26)

BTN antes $0.10
SB antes $0.10
BB antes $0.10
UTG antes $0.10
UTG+1 antes $0.10
Hero antes $0.10
MP1 antes $0.10
CO antes $0.10

Dealt to Hero K K

fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $5.10, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $4.75, fold, fold

FLOP ($12.90) A K 8

SB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

TURN ($27.90) A K 8 9

SB bets $15.75, Hero calls $15.75

RIVER ($59.40) A K 8 9 K

SB bets $116 (AI), Hero calls $23.55 (AI)

SB shows T T
(Pre 19%, Flop 1.7%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero shows K K
(Pre 81%, Flop 98.3%, Turn 100.0%)

SB wins $0.10
Hero wins $103

NOW THE HAND AFTER:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($10.05)
Hero ($54.50)
UTG ($142)
UTG+1 ($130)
UTG+2 ($73.60)
CO ($143)
BTN ($63.45)

UTG antes $0.10
UTG+1 antes $0.10
UTG+2 antes $0.10
CO antes $0.10
BTN antes $0.10
SB antes $0.10
Hero antes $0.10

Dealt to Hero T A

fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $1.55, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.95

FLOP ($3.85) 5 2 5

Hero checks, CO bets $2.50, Hero raises to $7.50, CO calls $5

TURN ($18.85) 5 2 5 3

Hero bets $12, CO calls $12

RIVER ($42.85) 5 2 5 3 A

Villain is 22/16 AF:3 3bet 8% over 800 hands, aggro deep table reg. He might be tilting, he is definitely pissed a will fight for the pot more then normally. Do we want to shove here and make him call light with flop overpairs because he is angry, or check and induce bluffs with wasted FDs and maybe even flop overpairs ("this time it will work") cause he will not think about showdown value or dont look at the metagame and make standart sick check/fold?
Hand against villain who we caught 3 street bluff in 3bet pot minute earlier - another table Quote
08-08-2010 , 07:32 AM
Other than it involves the same players, the hands are completely different. I don't think the villain's thinking, "Damn, how can he call my AI with quad kings?"

You've invested 40% of your stack with a draw and now essentially have TPWK. His bluffing range on the range after a flop raise and turn bet is going to be wider than his calling range on the river. If he can't beat a pair of aces, he's folding to your bet. I'd check and call a reasonable sized bet on the river.
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08-08-2010 , 07:55 AM
I like a c/c. I don't think he can call with much that you beat here. It is a perfect bluff card for him too.
Hand against villain who we caught 3 street bluff in 3bet pot minute earlier - another table Quote
08-08-2010 , 08:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by venice10
Other than it involves the same players, the hands are completely different. I don't think the villain's thinking, "Damn, how can he call my AI with quad kings?"

You've invested 40% of your stack with a draw and now essentially have TPWK. His bluffing range on the range after a flop raise and turn bet is going to be wider than his calling range on the river. If he can't beat a pair of aces, he's folding to your bet. I'd check and call a reasonable sized bet on the river.
Reasonable size? The pot is 42, he is shoving here all the time.
Hand against villain who we caught 3 street bluff in 3bet pot minute earlier - another table Quote
08-08-2010 , 08:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nostrakhan
I like a c/c. I don't think he can call with much that you beat here. It is a perfect bluff card for him too.
U think he wouldnt call here with JJ, QQ or KK ? He would rather put me on bluff than on ace in angry mood. Even without that, he cant just put me on an ace because I bet when the ace hits
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08-08-2010 , 08:47 AM
Meh, probably shove. It just really doesn't seem likely that villain will put you on much that will be scared of the ace and most naked flush draws would probably fold turn anyway given stack sizes so its unlikely villain will have that many hands they need to bluff with.
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08-08-2010 , 08:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baja15
Meh, probably shove. It just really doesn't seem likely that villain will put you on much that will be scared of the ace and most naked flush draws would probably fold turn anyway given stack sizes so its unlikely villain will have that many hands they need to bluff with.
Tilting players will call with any draw. And he can turn some lower pocket pairs into bluff... Or even go crazy with all his hands... I was expecting shove in 90% cases here...
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