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12-12-2019 , 04:58 PM
Bovada 200NL Zone

**I know this is medium stakes, but I feel Bovada fishy pool plays closer to a tough small stakes online.

Bovada pool isn't particularly aggro at this time of day...mostly regs who are usually under-bluffing, especially in 3bet pots. Lots of showdown monkeys (eg checking back nut flushes on paired boards and sets in 3bet pots)

415 eff [207bb]
CO 5, Hero SB QsQh 20, HU
Flop T85r [47]
H 20, V calls
Turn Qcc [87]
H 45, V min-raises to 90, H calls
**obviously biggest mistake in the hand, but I didn't want to time out so I just called
River 9x [270]
X, V bets 200
Hero?

QQ should definitely be a defend here in theory, but my question was is this TOO exploitative to fold...based on the player pool and sizing.

Turn min-raise and huge relative river bet (100BB) on a scary runout in a 3bet pot just screams 6c7c, KcJc, QJs, J9s, etc.
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12-12-2019 , 05:20 PM
I think based on your reads this is fine, we also have plenty of Jx in our range so it's not like we're folding everything on this river. It's really hard for V to have bluffs here that aren't pure air and unless they're very fishy they should never have worse value that bets river like that.
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12-12-2019 , 05:25 PM
3-bet turn. You have pretty low fold equity against a min-raise (this indicates a fish to me), which is great. Time to stack QT, TT, 88, 55, and combo draws.

I'm not sure about the river.
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12-12-2019 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnRusty
3-bet turn. You have pretty low fold equity against a min-raise (this indicates a fish to me), which is great. Time to stack QT, TT, 88, 55, and combo draws.

I'm not sure about the river.
Yea fishy bets and sizings are VERY common in SRP but I was definitely thrown off by a min-raise OTT in a 3bet pot at over 200bb.

This hand plays itself if V raises a normal sizing OTT.

Honestly, I feel sick about folding this the more I think about it...I just didn't think a player fishy enough to min-raise the turn this deep would be able to bet middle set so big OTR with a 1-liner.
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12-12-2019 , 08:57 PM
might be a defend in theory if you assume v is competent when deep and has a complex turn raise and river bet range, but this guy looks like a whale. if he fails to notice possible straights and takes this line with sets and his better 2p is another question altogether
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