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08-06-2017 , 02:42 PM
[converted_hand][hand_history]Party, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $5 (125 bb)
BB: $5.31 (132.8 bb)
UTG: $12.27 (306.8 bb)
MP: $6.78 (169.5 bb)
CO: $5.32 (133 bb)
BTN: $4.86 (121.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.13, BB folds

Flop: ($0.35) 8 K 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.85) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

River: ($2.05) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.46, Hero calls $1.46

ap call? fold on turn is better option?
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08-06-2017 , 03:08 PM
3b pre

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08-06-2017 , 03:43 PM
i probably call down like you did here, not really folding with top pair queen kicker on flop or turn and on the river when our hand gets slightly better I call


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikk
3b pre

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out of interest Rikk, why do you 3 bet this hand from the SB vs CO? one of those hands where I might 3bet, but don't really know why I am doing it?

i probably 3bet if it is offsuit but when suited i try and go multiway- don't really know why though I just heard it before.
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08-06-2017 , 04:29 PM
Many ppl have only 3b, no calling range SBvsLate. You can play both call or 3b pre, as played it is easy call down.
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08-06-2017 , 04:43 PM
Ya i 3b because i dont have a flatting range vs CO open and I'm not folding haha

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08-06-2017 , 05:41 PM
That's not a reason imo.
Linear strategy I have no problem with (3bet or fold) but you need to understand why you do it?
Reasons you do it:
1- Villain folds too much to 3bets.
In this case you can almost 3bet with any 2, but having these great blockers does a lot and if you get called, you're OK equitywise.
2- Villain doesn't fold too much to 3bets but does fold quite a lot post-flop. In this case (that makes the play a bit more expensive but also more profitable) you need the initiative to make him fold. You also need some understanding of board textures as well.
3- Villain is openning loose and giving 3bets action loose. For example agaisnt my Co open range, KQ is doing good. Even when I flat the 3bet, KQ is doing good as well. There are a lot of KJ,QJ,JT,T9 stuff in there for you to not worry about AQ and AK.
In thia case you're 3bet is almost for value! But against a player who calls youbthis light, be prepared to fire multiple shells because you get floated a lot as well.
Btw, despite the fact that this a great hand to 3bet with, this is also an easy hand to get away from if you got 4bet! You're never good agaisnt a 4bet... And muat hand that has tou crushed will 4bet you pre(AA,KK,QQ,AK..)
So I like 3betting it, but with some understanding of why you're doing it!
Just to be clear, I prefer a polorized range from blinds...(there is always a situation for everything of course!)

About the hand, as played, I would call down.

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08-07-2017 , 01:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohsen
That's not a reason imo.
Linear strategy I have no problem with (3bet or fold) but you need to understand why you do it?
Reasons you do it:
1- Villain folds too much to 3bets.
In this case you can almost 3bet with any 2, but having these great blockers does a lot and if you get called, you're OK equitywise.
2- Villain doesn't fold too much to 3bets but does fold quite a lot post-flop. In this case (that makes the play a bit more expensive but also more profitable) you need the initiative to make him fold. You also need some understanding of board textures as well.
3- Villain is openning loose and giving 3bets action loose. For example agaisnt my Co open range, KQ is doing good. Even when I flat the 3bet, KQ is doing good as well. There are a lot of KJ,QJ,JT,T9 stuff in there for you to not worry about AQ and AK.
In thia case you're 3bet is almost for value! But against a player who calls youbthis light, be prepared to fire multiple shells because you get floated a lot as well.
Btw, despite the fact that this a great hand to 3bet with, this is also an easy hand to get away from if you got 4bet! You're never good agaisnt a 4bet... And muat hand that has tou crushed will 4bet you pre(AA,KK,QQ,AK..)
So I like 3betting it, but with some understanding of why you're doing it!
Just to be clear, I prefer a polorized range from blinds...(there is always a situation for everything of course!)

About the hand, as played, I would call down.

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08-07-2017 , 05:43 AM
Pretty easy call down. Preflop flat is a-okay as well. You can go either way with flatting or 3betting. Benefits of flatting are you keep the CO's range wide and will dominate or be flipping with a number of hands he folds to a 3bet. When your 3bet is called the reverse happens and now his range is dominating yours.

If you have specific reads/stats on the CO and/or BB those should be used to determine which option is best between 3bet pre or flat.
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