PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $1.85
MP+1: $5.23
LP: $3.43
CO: $6.00
Hero (BTN): $12.60
SB: $1.95
BB: $5.52
UTG: $5.28
UTG+1: $4.14
I Isoed a weak player expecting to get called by him with a setminer's range but unfortunately another villain flats me...

the flatter's stats:
340h 25/10, TAF 3,2, Donkflop 10/ wtsd: 33, won $ at showdown 58




SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 7 Q

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, BB calls $0.20, fold

Flop: ($0.57, 2 players) Q 2 5
BB bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.27, 2 players) 5
BB bets $0.80

Just give it up?? what about the flop??

I'd give it up on the flop. Basically, you're hoping that he's got A3 or a middle PP, as someone donking any piece of the board or air does it more than 10% of the time. 10% aligns roughly with a two-pair/set range, so without any useful read I'm happy to fold and thanking him for not letting me valuetown myself with TPWK.

Can't fold flop IMO. I think he is firing some air and lower pps there.
I give him this range for betting turn.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.515% 56.28% 03.24% 1461 84.00 { Qs7s }
Hand 1: 40.485% 37.25% 03.24% 967 84.00 { QQ-55, AQs, KQs, QJs, AQo, KQo, QJo }

Almost nothing but a 7 or Q is a good river for you i guess though. I think folding is fine but I would call and re-evaluate river. I think his is trying to keep the pot small betting 60%. I mean there a good chance you missed that flop and the turn is safe. I am DBing a med pp there 100% of the time. and tbh I think he is check raising the flop with any solid Q. IMO

the smaller they donk into us the more their range looks like pp betting to see where hes at cause hes oop & the bigger the more it looks like its fat value and donking incorrectly cause hes losing value by doing so

now fold turn

Disagree.
1. pre-flop hero raised from the btn, which means hero likely had trash holding, hero had trash indeed
2. flop is dry, which means whoever leads into the pot is likely to win it.
Based the two reasons above, bb may be trying to steal the pot if we missed, so I'd to would raise the flop, if get reraised or donked again ott, surrender.

0.02$

flop fine turn flip coin

first decision that matters is pre. looks like spew without more info on limper
calling flop is awful.

why? You prefer fold? Raise would be awful IMO you just fold out all worse and never fold out better.

I don't see anything wrong with peeling the flop here but maybe I'm doing it wrong! I see donk bets in spots like this from 99 type hands clicking buttons and they often give up on the turn.

Well, i had enough info about the limper....he played 17/7 in 1800 hands...
doesn't need much of a hand because he folds 85 per cent to my c bet anyway.... being on the button increases chance to get head's up with him...

elaborate the awfulness of my flop call... Doesn't his donk smell like a smaller pp, which doesn't like to call me down...??
What range do u put him on??

If u donk-betting the turn 100 per cent with pps...what range do you give a Tag on that board calling ur flopbet?? u lose to anything but a float, don't ya??

doing anything but call on the flop is a ridiculous idea unless you have seen this guy b/c like 99. turn is a call.

You isoed with Q7s i would say you are no TAG. Your iso range to include Q7s is around 28%. anyways.
Let's see. I think you are getting 3 bet (remember we are villain now) with AQs and possibly KQs on that flop. So i put in KQo as a call and KQs would be 3b

This what a Tag float flop range looks like to me in this hand.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.717% 46.25% 00.46% 13188 132.00 { TT-66, 44, AKs, AJs, A4s-A3s, KJs, QTs+, AKo, AJo, KQo, QTo+ }
Hand 1: 53.283% 52.82% 00.46% 15060 132.00 { 88 }

I see no problem with double barreling here with a PP. and I see no problem with calling with Q7s on the turn as you can see in my first post. It's boderline. I guess I don't mean I am firing this turn 100%, it would be player specific. against that flatter i would 100% in this situation, against a 7/7, no i would not.

Got me...no just kiddin...
My stats are taggish... my intention was to iso the ep limper because of his predictable range and predictable postflop behavior...
Doing this on the button makes it more easy...
I sometimes attack weak ranges with 95s p.e.......that doesn't mean i have a 3 bet range of 55% ...

I call this flop almost always - what's he donking on such a dry board?