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05-02-2008 , 10:34 PM

#26

ThePokerFink2

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 850

I like swifty's line. We only have a J kicker to go with our so called trips, why would we want to commit more money into the pot than we already have?! Also, valuebetting thin on the turn or the river will just get us into a spot where villain will take advantage of this and bluffraise us off most of our thin valuebets.

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05-02-2008 , 11:05 PM

#27

thepizzlefosho

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 6,206

this thread made this happen:

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05-02-2008 , 11:28 PM

#28

CPHoya

Warden of Taipan Island

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73,265

For the longest time I thought I wasn't worthy of posting in mid stakes and didn't want to taint the forum with my lower level thinking, and then I read this thread.

lmao

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05-03-2008 , 12:55 AM

#29

d2themfi

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,262

lead turn for 64, lead almost any river

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05-03-2008 , 01:48 AM

#30

LambParatha

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 17

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Originally Posted by swiftyship

if we lead the turn, our hand is flipped over.

so what?

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Originally Posted by swiftyship

if we check the turn and he bets, the absolute bottom of his range is AK

No its not, the absolute bottom of his range is like 23s

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Originally Posted by swiftyship

so if we shove we're desperately hoping he can call this which shouldn't be the case because the board's is made.

that is incoherent. He could call it if he has a King, it has nothing to do with teh board being made

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Originally Posted by swiftyship

if we check turn and he checks behind, i haven't decided what line i like.

Why? You C/r.

Unbelievable.

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05-03-2008 , 08:39 AM

#31

jetsetboy

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 791

I disagree if we lead the turn vilain will never give us some credit for a Q.

c/r and leading seems both good to me. If vilain 2nd barrel a lot I'd rather c/r and catch more free money and can hope from a crying call from a draw or a K.

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05-03-2008 , 10:17 AM

#32

lkjhgfdsa

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,040

Id c-c turn, and c-r river if he checks behind or bets the turn.

Last edited by lkjhgfdsa; 05-03-2008 at 10:23 AM.

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05-03-2008 , 10:57 AM

#33

Nielsio

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Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 23,398

Does anyone like lead turn, check river? It allows him to do some stupid stuff twice, with what is believed to be a very light range (high steal %, good flop to cbet).

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05-03-2008 , 11:15 AM

#34

skier_5

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,443

id mix in leading the turn (and betting most rivers if just called) and checking (and calling if he bets) and c/r the river if he checks behind. i'd lead a variety of "air" hands here too.

edit: preflop and flop are super stanard.

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05-03-2008 , 04:26 PM

#35

billybeartku

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Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,835

I like to lead the turn cuz you get at least one more bet from weak K. If you check, weak K is likely to check back and probably won't give you more action on the river unless you think btn is likely to value bet thin w/ his King. The thing is tho, after you c/c twice, your hand is pretty much face up to him, at least a king w/ good kicker or a Queen trying to get a little fancy.