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10-15-2010 , 03:46 PM
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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Hero (MP1): $10.15
MP2: $11.20
CO: $10.12
BTN: $10.00
SB: $19.61
BB: $10.82
UTG: $10.43
UTG+1: $10.00
UTG+2: $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP1 with 9 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.05) K 4 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.05) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero folds
hud wasent working
him checking this flop makes me insta fold the turn
no comments on pre please
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10-15-2010 , 03:48 PM
fold?.....w-t-f......please raise.
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10-15-2010 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pdiggz
fold?.....w-t-f......please raise.
lol what is he reraising with preflop that he would check the flop with
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10-15-2010 , 03:52 PM
Fold pre, especially with no reads. Set mining in 3 bet pots is bad. I don't care if you don't want to hear it. It's a leak in a hand your asking about. To many people do stupid things pre-flop, then say don't comment on the original mistake. If you know it's bad and you still do it, then apparently you need to be reminded to not do it!

So, here you are set mining in a 3 bet pot with no reads, you hit your set, and now you fold for a single bet. I would normally think that set mining in a 3 bet pot is the biggest mistake, but you hit your hand and fold. Yes, he could have KK/QQ here, but he could much more easily have AA/AK and have a case of FPS. So very very bad.
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10-15-2010 , 03:53 PM
Enjoy your stay at $10 NL. You'll be at $5 in no time folding hands like these.

Seriously though, bet the flop, raise the turn. What on earth could you have gotten out of HUD that would have helped you on this ultra easy to play flop/hand? Why are you even calling the 3-bet if you're going to fold the near nuts post flop?
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10-15-2010 , 03:54 PM
flop is the only street you played correct...congrats sir.
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10-15-2010 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by stranglylucid
Yes, he could have KK/QQ here, but he could much more easily have AA/AK and have a case of FPS. So very very bad.
A more likely hand for the villian to have is something like AQ or JJ/TT that's checking the flop and thinking he's betting for value when it checks through.
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10-15-2010 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Money022
A more likely hand for the villian to have is something like AQ or JJ/TT that's checking the flop and thinking he's betting for value when it checks through.
JJ/TT now have a gutter and since I doubt villains thinks he can fold a K/Q in our hand I doubt he would bet these hands in this spot.
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10-15-2010 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Money022
Enjoy your stay at $10 NL. You'll be at $5 in no time folding hands like these.

Seriously though, bet the flop, raise the turn. What on earth could you have gotten out of HUD that would have helped you on this ultra easy to play flop/hand? Why are you even calling the 3-bet if you're going to fold the near nuts post flop?
Why bet the flop if it hits villains range perfectly ? The only thing he should be betting is a low flop or a set imo. But yea I agree that you shouldnt be calling 3bets with 99.
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10-15-2010 , 04:02 PM
When you have a set, unless board is 4 flush, put the stack in. This is 10nl pretty much no exceptions.
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10-15-2010 , 04:05 PM
I know preflop is bad but honestly

what am I getting reraised oop by that checks this flop and bets the turn aa/ak really isnt going to check the flop and aq/jj/tt isnt reraising me oop
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10-15-2010 , 04:06 PM
not to mention im new to cashgames

like I said, i know preflop is bad
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10-15-2010 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Immolate
When you have a set, unless board is 4 flush, put the stack in. This is 10nl pretty much no exceptions.
Agreed! Not sure why the check on the flop is that scary at this level.
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10-15-2010 , 04:08 PM
First off, since we don't have stats, it's pretty damn hard to say anything about the villan.

Second, I see villans delay C-bet or check raise with AA/AK all the time at 10NL and 25NL. I also see people 3 betting AQ/JJ/TT and worse on a regular basis.

But, honestly, if you already know your right, why exactly are you asking questions?
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10-15-2010 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stranglylucid
First off, since we don't have stats, it's pretty damn hard to say anything about the villan.

Second, I see villans delay C-bet or check raise with AA/AK all the time at 10NL and 25NL. I also see people 3 betting AQ/JJ/TT and worse on a regular basis.

But, honestly, if you already know your right, why exactly are you asking questions?
I dont know if it was right but you guys are only saying things like "he can have ak here" but I dont see why he would check the flop with ak/aa so that dosent really make sense to me. what does make sense to me is something like : You are giving nl10 players too much credit alot of times they are capable of reraising here with alot of hands.
which I pretty much understood when someone said get it in unless there was a 4flush at nl10



I just played my first nl10 session so I really dont know what players are capable of doing
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10-15-2010 , 04:17 PM
You folded to a 15bb bet, on the turn, with a set, IP.
You are tight.
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10-15-2010 , 04:21 PM
Put it this way. Players make mistakes. Player trap. Players do all sorts of weird things. As you have 0 info on the villan other than he 3 bet pre-flop and checked the flop, then you can draw no conclusions regarding how he will play.

But, if you say his range is AA, KK, and QQ only, then you should call because you are splitting with his range and there is dead money in the pot. If you add in AK, then you are way ahead. If you add in AQ that is scared of the K or JJ/TT that are betting to weakness with gutters, then you are even further ahead. And all of the above conjecure is reasonable range for an average 10NL villan.
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10-15-2010 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stranglylucid
Put it this way. Players make mistakes. Player trap. Players do all sorts of weird things. As you have 0 info on the villan other than he 3 bet pre-flop and checked the flop, then you can draw no conclusions regarding how he will play.

But, if you say his range is AA, KK, and QQ only, then you should call because you are splitting with his range and there is dead money in the pot. If you add in AK, then you are way ahead. If you add in AQ that is scared of the K or JJ/TT that are betting to weakness with gutters, then you are even further ahead. And all of the above conjecure is reasonable range for an average 10NL villan.
this was very informative...ty
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10-15-2010 , 04:35 PM
<3 regfish who setmine in 3bet pots.
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10-15-2010 , 04:37 PM
So you set mined in a 3 bet pot. Got your set, and now you want to fold?
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10-15-2010 , 05:47 PM
Lol flat a 3bet with 99, turn gin and fold to one bet. Awesome.
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10-15-2010 , 05:56 PM
Yeah I'm raising turn for value since he checked the flop. If he has AA, AK he'll think he has to call down because you think he thinks he looks weak. Also I want to build a pot and it doesn't hurt charging something to the backdoor flush if he happens to have it. I'd discount JT here because I don't think many people 3b JTo and he didn't cbet the flop. I think most people would just bet flop instead of going for a checkraise with JT here.
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10-15-2010 , 06:54 PM
Nice fold wp.
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10-15-2010 , 08:31 PM
wait... let me get this straight.....
you call a 3bet preflop with 99
hit your set on the turn and fold when he donk bets?? i wish i played against people like you all day
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10-15-2010 , 08:34 PM
Fold pre. If you call pre and fold there, you shall be enjoying the delights of 10nl for a looong time.
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