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Folding Flopped Straight to Turn Raise Linecheck Folding Flopped Straight to Turn Raise Linecheck

09-05-2010 , 09:47 PM
Villian is typical 16/14, multitabling nit. 3bet 7% and raise flop10%, turn 13%. Have 500 hands on him, havent noticed him get out of line really.
MP1 is fish.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 906606
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UTG: $42.00
UTG+1: $13.40
UTG+2: $50.00
MP1: $70.50
Hero (MP2): $75.25
CO: $47.75
BTN: $50.00
SB: $68.50
BB: $75.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP2 with T 9
3 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, BTN calls $2.25, 2 folds, MP1 calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.50) Q J K (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $5.60, BTN calls $5.60, MP1 folds

Turn: ($18.70) J (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN raises to $42.15 all in

Seems like a pretty easy lay down just wanted to make sure I am not going crazzy ...
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09-05-2010 , 10:03 PM
flatting that raise pre, calling psb cbet and donk shoving turn ?
16/14 multitabling, those stats dont look like a nit

no QQ/JJ/KK there, unless he wanted to bring MP1 along (doubtful)

QJ and KJ are the only 2 realistic hands that beat us, would AT shove with a paired board ?

TJhh imo..

Without reads hard to decide though youre getting over 2:1, Tough spot i think I'd call and give my monies away
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09-05-2010 , 10:14 PM
wp
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09-05-2010 , 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silber
16/14 multitabling, those stats dont look like a nit
pre =\ post
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09-05-2010 , 11:39 PM
Good fold, good discipline. Given action I think BTN has QQ (or JJ..). The only thing I dont get is why would he shove that.
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09-06-2010 , 08:36 AM
would a flopped set just call that flop bet on such a wet board taking a chance a T/A/h comes along, and then gets FH/Quads and donk shoves ? Weird line wouldn't you say ?
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09-06-2010 , 08:45 AM
Villains line dosnt make sense. Ok he may flat pre with JJ+ just to be tricky but like Sibler says wouldt he raise the flop with a set on that board. Also why would he shove if he has boated up or just made quads? If he is anywhere near decent wont he want to give us a chance to improve on the river or is it a case of I has de nutz must get it in.
Im not thinking we are good here but i am struggling to put villain on a logical hand. Maybe he just made trips with his AJ and dosnt want to let us draw hence the shove.
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09-06-2010 , 08:11 PM
It is a weird line. I was thinking more KJ/QJ. Think I put JJ/KJ/QJs,AT,JhTh,AhJh in his range and stove gave me like 9%...

Also the fish in the hand makes it less likely he floated flop with AJo imo. The turn is an interesting spot where we're actually flipping with AJhh
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09-06-2010 , 08:34 PM
The only single hand that makes sense is Jx, or AThh. Straights would want to see river for cheap, also would any draw that has the balls to continue here

I don't see JTo ever continuing on flop either. Only JT that makes sense is hh that's too afraid to shove flop. Only 4 other hands make sense here. AThh, or AJhh, QJ, or KJ

28 to win 86 means you need to win 32%

Board: Qh Js Kh Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 07.289% 06.68% 00.61% 325957 29748.50 { Tc9c }
Hand 1: 92.711% 92.11% 00.61% 4494332 29748.50 { AhJh, AhTh, KJs, QJs, JhTh, KJo, QJo }
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