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02-02-2020 , 10:24 PM
Looking for advice on if I got too passive on the turn/river. The board let the flush draws get there, but I feel like I could've gone for some value on the river. Was the check back correct, or did I play this too passively? I think I end up playing turns/rivers too passively because I have a tendency to not fold to raises which costs me money. But not betting is also hurting me over time in missed value. How often are you able to bet/fold the river? Could you give me examples of hands that would bet/fold this runout?

Yatahay Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 110.5 BB
BTN: 228.5 BB
SB: 109 BB
Hero (BB): 265 BB
UTG: 44.5 BB
MP: 95.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) J K Q
SB checks, Hero bets 9 BB, SB raises to 18 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

Turn: (54 BB, 2 players) 8
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (54 BB, 2 players) 6
SB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:
SB shows 7 8 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 21%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 79%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 51.5 BB
Rake paid 2.5 BB
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02-03-2020 , 01:51 AM
I have faced this so many times vs fish - i understand how you feel

You played fine

flop: I bet pot

turn:

usually i shove turn after betting pot

as played:
i bet small like 1/4 or 1/3 pot nowadays (if i am confused between checking and betting 1/2 pot - i bet something smaller in between)

river:

check is fine given the run out

SB checked twice - fish with straight or flush typically cant keep quiet when they hit - again you can bet small - 1/4 pot

I will be hesitant to bet/fold river with a set on this run out.. i will bet/call
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02-03-2020 , 09:03 AM
I'd bet river ~1/2 pot
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02-04-2020 , 11:36 AM
We can bet 18-25bbs otf.

As played, anywhere from 40-60% of the pot is fine for the river. Villian's been timid enough for me to go 22-25bbs
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02-04-2020 , 03:31 PM
Hello
Bet stronger flop
Bet 1/2 river, need more info on villain to call
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